Anonymous #2 10w

yeah probably having to pay for dates. but which gender faces more harm, death, harassment because of inequality? sorry but if you just asked her to split the check she’d probably say yeah. and if she says no she wasn’t your perfect match anyways! and if she splits the check and doesn’t text you back afterwards, she probably just didn’t vibe with you and that’s okay too, it just happens sometimes.

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

Sorry the cherry picking was annoying me so I gave a much more accurate list of things

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

I do fully agree that everything on the list is a problem not all big ones but problems but putting the minor stuff next to the big picture issues isn’t an actual comparison it’s dumb let’s be honest

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

I think op was talking about people like asmongold who wont talk about systemic problems facing men that should be addressed and will instead talk about really stupid and inconsequential stuff like what was shown in the image

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Anonymous #5 10w

Okay I would take that if there wasn’t the giant generalization of male rights activists Charlie or asmongold is a streamer if you are getting political advice from anyone who is in the public eye be aware they have personal views and opinions about things I may be a demon but people who refuse to see another’s perspective are truly evil

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Anonymous #5 10w

I think if OP wanted to talk about something or someone specific they wouldn’t generalize.

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

Thx

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Anonymous #9 10w

I don’t agree all of these are systemic and not personal or at most cultural but I definitely agree w/2, & there r systemic issues behind all of these in the U.S. it’s just that OP Is comparing women’s issues in culturally shithole countries to our society which largely favors women, governmentally speaking.

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Anonymous #10 10w

What is? Post itself seems very much the opposite that sentiment.

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Anonymous #8 10w

Well I'll give you that they switched up the bias to the other side but it's still the exact same idea.

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Anonymous #8 10w

That exact same idea being: Water down the other gender's struggle to stir up division

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Anonymous #6 10w

I’m actually more interested in seeing the meaning you are deriving from this and then choosing whether I would like to discuss it with the people who have chosen to respond to this post

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You’re right than manosphere incels using the term men’s rights is not important at all and need to be socially eradicated but you’re genuinely evil if you think the issues in the first part of the comment and activism to reduce them aren’t important

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

the things you listed are not issues addressed by men's rights activists/activism. men's rights activism broadly focuses on the issues listed by the graphic the issues you listed are, however, issues that are addressed by feminists; because feminism is the advocacy for gendered equality *in both directions*

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Anonymous #13 10w

Citation needed In 2021, several major feminist groups, including NOW, teamed up for an event about the rise in suicide attempts among girls. At the same time, boys were dying by suicide at more than 3x the rate of girls, yet none of these groups ever ran a similar national campaign for male suicide. If feminism claims to speak for both genders, it’s doing a poor job.

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Anonymous og_beer 10w

Thank you and I fully agree people who go for the extremes are terrible and don’t care about what’s happening only about their own personal opinions and interests I was initially just trying to say that the points in the post were not comparable and as such gave comparable points for the original post I do believe that the “Manosphere” is a predatory group who use men’s issues to gain a following or a sense of power absolutely appalling but I also find man hating “Gynosphere” feminists appalling

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Anonymous #9 10w

focus is not exclusion kid. not every single act of feminism will positively impact men and women equally also citation definitely needed cuz i can't find anything about this campaign/event

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Anonymous #13 10w

If feminism is focused on women’s issues, it only makes sense to have a movement focused on mens issues. https://now.org/media-center/press-release/first-ever-inaugural-event-a-girls-state-of-the-union-address

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Anonymous #13 10w

I would agree if I was a kid and we had this conversation I would be right there with you but since then the world has shifted drastically and I understand that feminism was the fight for equality and the idea of equal rights and opportunity for all however that ended in the 3rd wave right before the me too movement when it shifted from everyone is equal to all men are all guilty when radicals took over and the world became “I hate all men” over here and “all women are liars” over there

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Anonymous #9 10w

omg the comprehension and literacy crisis will be the death of me. "not every single act..." those EVENTS were focused on women. nobody said feminism solely focuses on women; i explicitly stated the opposite are you dumb or just playing the part?

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

you're still a kid, emotionally speaking

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Anonymous #13 10w

I wish I was but sadly emotionally I wasn’t allowed to be a kid by the age of 13 I was helping raise myself by 16 I had dealt with rape, death of a close friend, and the subsequent suicide if another at 17 I lost my little sister to cancer at 18 I had to deal with the separation of my parents as well as being disowned and homeless for months I wish I was a kid again I would do everything differently but it’s disgusting disrespect to look at someone and call them a kid for having an opinion

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

none of that makes you emotionally mature. arguably the emotional stunting all that likely caused would explain why you have such a reactive, reductive, elementary perspective on this issue

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

and i didn't call you a kid simply for having an opinion, kid

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Anonymous #13 10w

You said “feminism is the advocacy for gendered equality *in both directions*” If that were true, we would expect feminist organizations to give at least equal attention to suicide in boys, but it doesn’t seem like thats the case. Theres no issue with feminism focusing on women’s issues, but it seems completely reasonable to have organizations focused on men’s issues if thats the case.

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Anonymous #9 10w

1) feminism is the advocacy for gendered equality in both directions 2) not every single act by feminists will focus equally on men and women 3) points (1) and (2) are both true at once

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Anonymous #9 10w

this is incredibly straightforward, correct logic and your inability to comprehend it suggests to me that you are either genuinely too intellectually impaired for this talk to be productive or you're dishonestly pushing an agenda. which is it?

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Anonymous #13 10w

No one expects every single act to focus equally on both, but over time, things should balance out if the effort is truly for both genders. The fact that feminist groups have never organized a similar event for the larger issue of suicide in boys suggests their focus isn’t actually equal.

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Anonymous #9 10w

the issue with your framing is that you've failed to realize that suicide awareness events are *completely fucking useless*. the overwhelming majority of people are *painfully* aware of the issue. MRAs are stuck on step ZERO of the issue spreading awareness where it already exists feminists have already taken great strides in promoting men's mental health, de-stigmatizing therapy and psychiatry, encouraging men to build community, make friends, find healthy outlets, etc..

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Anonymous #9 10w

like i'm sorry but hosting an event doesn't necessarily address the issue. MRAs can host a million events and still be less impactful and effective than feminists

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Anonymous #13 10w

Regardless of your evaluation of suicide awareness events, it’s clear that some very large feminist organizations seem to think they’re worthwhile. So i’ll ask again, why haven’t they organized a comparable event?

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Anonymous #13 10w

Why did they bother with the event for girls if they didn’t believe it helped the cause? It’s okay to admit the obvious, feminist organizations are primarily focused on women’s issues, and theres nothing wrong with that.

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Anonymous #9 10w

citation *still* needed. you haven't demonstrated such an event occurred. no matter what combination of "National Organization for Women", "Suicide Awareness", "2021" i used there was nothing relevant i'm not confident this event even existed. if it did i would say that they were likely wasting time and energy too. spreading awareness for a widely discussed and recognized issue is pointless. blow-for-blow MRAs have done basically nothing while feminists have spearheaded men's mental health

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Anonymous #13 10w

This is yikyak, not Wikipedia or an academic journal. You ain’t getting a fucking citation from that person or me or anyone else. Use google like a regular person instead of demanding people do things for you (and don’t use AI)

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Anonymous OP 10w

hey kid, they said citation needed themself 😂 it's not my job to find proof of something somebody else said happened. for all you know they got some other thing confused with this and are totally wrong. and i say "for all you know" because i seriously doubt you actually know it happened either

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Anonymous OP 10w

"(and don't use AI)" something tells me that's where they got info about this alleged event

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Anonymous diablo999 10w

i’m not expert but i feel like male rape victims would probably go under the rape category wouldn’t it?

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