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This is why we fucking hate gender ideology
-14 upvote, 36 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in US Politics. "This is why we fucking hate gender ideology"
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Anonymous 31w

Cry abt it

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Anonymous 31w

I’m a biomedical science major, I’m going for my masters in the fall. Define woman.

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Anonymous 31w

This isn’t even ridiculous? Puberty blockers are reversible. If the 15 year old wants treatment and their parents agree, why should the government be able to step in and say no?

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Anonymous 31w

God forbid doctors are trained to deal with scenarios they might encounter with patients I guess

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

Because they’re not giving minors gender affirming surgery and only offer totally reversible treatment that is also given to cisgender minors everyday orrrr….?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

That was not meant to be a reply to you

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 31w

You’re okay don’t worry

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

I start medical school in 3 days. I’m not going to play this game with you lol. Would be a waste of my time. The point is, this question is a fucking joke because it’s not even evidence based and is so unbelievably easy compared to normal medical school test questions.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

If u aren’t willing to be a good medical provider to trans people u should drop ur classes

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

So you can’t define woman. Got it. If it was an easy question for you to answer, you could do it but you can’t. As someone who’s FINISHED a bachelors with a medical based degree, don’t talk about things you don’t understand. You’re offended that basic biology and science don’t agree with your opinions.

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Anonymous replying to -> boariskarloff 31w

I never said I was. I’ll take care of anybody. The point is there are far more important things to learn. This question is a joke because it’s clearly politically motivated instead of based on evidence based medicine, which is what medical school is all about…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

Gender affirming care *is* evidence-based medicine, dingus

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 31w

Not just this, but studies show that gender affirming care helps prevent depression and suicide rates within minors by a large margin. Generally speaking it works to reduce those two issues.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

Buddy I have a BS in biology and an MS in biomedical sciences. NOW I’m going to medical school. I promise you my depth of knowledge is greater. To answer your question, clearly it depends on sex vs gender and your interpretation of it. Tbf though, your assigned sex at birth is what is in your medical records…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

Great so why is it unreasonable to assume that situations like this might arise in today’s political climate?

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Anonymous replying to -> boariskarloff 31w

Buddy. If you saw a normal medical school test question, you’d also believe this is a fucking joke.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

I’m a grown ass man, don’t “buddy” me. Only one of us is freaking out for no reason, and it ain’t me

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

Sure. But it doesn’t have to be a test question because this is at the bottom of the list of priorities in terms of physiological comprehension. For example, this question would NEVER show up on a board exam… because it’s not high yield or very important… at all

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

How are you quantifying the priority level?

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Anonymous replying to -> shrimp_fried_rice 31w

Again… there are far more important things to be tested over

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

This question is clearly politically motivated. Which is why it’s not a shock at all that this is from UCLA.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

It’s one multiple choice question, you’ll be okay

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

“Politically motivated” as if trans people existing is political 😭 I would rather a doctor know what to do if I came in asking about gender affirming treatment

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

First you need to understand your basic sciences, then anatomy/physiology of the human body, then the pathophysiology of prevalent diseases (by systems), and then treatment and the physiological reaction of said treatment. Considering this situation will come up far less than HTN, DM, Cancer, or a numerous amount of other pathologies, this situation is not high yield… at all. They just want to shove it down your throat because it’s California.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

In theory this would already be done. You’d know the fundamentals and nuances of medical and sociological issues. Do you consider any gender related questions to be irrelevant to ask in this surgery?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

At this stage, yeah. Considering tanner stage 3 means they’re underdeveloped for their age, they need a full hormone work up before gender affirming care is even brought on the table. In fact it could be explaining why they feel this way at all. But of course, the answer for UCLA is just to load them up with puberty blockers which would make the problem worse… And yes, we have to take classes like that. A lot of them. Basically my first month block will be my entire undergrad degree and we…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

have a ton of professional development/public health literacy classes sprinkled in throughout the 4 years. Pretty much every medical school does something similar

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

Well hold on. Why do you think that wouldn’t be applicable to the question? I don’t think it’s supposed to be representative of what could be a multi year long process. I think more so just the general reaction of the medical professional

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

Because it’s not even looking for the right answer. The general reaction of the medical professional should be “let’s wait on that, you appear to be underdeveloped for your age, and I’d like to do some bloodwork to understand where your baseline level of hormones are, and then we can decide a course of action from there”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

“Should be” according to what?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

According the fact that they patient is tanner stage 3. A sign of underdevelopment as a 15 yo.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

I’m talking about why you think it’s supposed to be the general reaction and not dependent on each case

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

Because the general reaction should never be “load them up on puberty blockers” It should be to discuss their current state, talk about potential changes, and then provide different methods of treatment.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

I’m wondering. Do you think any minors should be given hormones?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 31w

Unless it’s to supplement low levels of hormones like T, E, or TSH absolutely not.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

Claims to know things about medicine, ignores proven best practices because he just doesn’t like them

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 31w

Alright so you just purposefully ignore scientific data on the success of HRT. That makes sense as to why you’re having this mental road block.

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Anonymous replying to -> boariskarloff 31w

Suddenly his ignorance on the matter clicks very well. He truly meant gender “ideology” in the post: He wasn’t being intentionally dense and provocative to get engagement. He just hates transgender people and their identities

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