
God you fucking freaks are so demented and twisted. keep weaponizing the deaths of others in order to advocate for people to be at further risk, like the utter scumbag you are. let me guess, “2a for me and not for thee”, right? you want guns all lined up in schools putting kids in danger, but I wonder how you’d feel if people actually used 2a for its intended purpose: defending against a tyrannical government.
You’re the one that doesn’t get it, pea brain. If there were trained people or even the teachers with training allowed to be armed, you REALLY think they wouldn’t be able to outsmart or take down these mentally ill children that are going into the schools doing this?? Almost all these school shootings are done by kids or young adults. If someone comes at you with a gun they obtained illegally, good luck fighting them off with your hands you mfing idiot.
oh my god teachers jobs are hard enough without sufficient pay, and you want them to act as de facto armed security too? maybe we just address the issue that you avoided, how prevalent guns are in general in our society due to the overabundance in supply, as well as the intentional manufacturing of unregistered guns sent to destabilize nations or regions. We use them as a weapon, both individually and as a nation.
Those guards/cops are bitches and must have not had training, honestly that’s shameful that they did that. Need to hire tougher ones that actually care. I guess the best way to go base off what you’re saying is just fuck it, run for your life. Who needs protection from unwell people that will come around no matter what laws you put into place.
I’ll be honest, after further reading I’m not 100% sure whether the armed guards were actually on campus at the time of the shooting or not, but I agree about the cops; with the exception that I think that they did exactly what their training taught them. The Supreme Court ruled that cops have no duty or requirement to risk their lives to save a civilian, their job isn’t to protect us as much as it is to protect the rich and their assets; but that’s an entirely different topic so I digress.
They had a resource officer on site. He chose not to engage or approach the shooter to protect the children in fear for his own life… ya know, like the fucking reason he had a job in the first place?? Hundreds of cops arrived quickly, but spent their time preventing parents from running into the building to save their kids and take down the shooter themselves if the hundreds of cops holding them back weren’t gonna do it. A few parents successfully retrieved their babies from their classrooms!!
Recent court decisions said he wasn’t liable for his inaction and that shit fucking enraged me. Why the fuck do we pay them a salary and make them a cop on campus policing the children & property when they won’t even risk their lives for the reason why they were hired in the first place? The “good guy with a gun” argument falls dead flat after that fucking situation. It’s disgusting. I went to my HS recently. They have more STOP THE BLEED kits in the halls than they do toilets in bathrooms…
I agree this Situation is awful and a horrible example, and horrible cops involved. But it’s just hard for me to believe that in majority of cases, having someone ready to blast the shooter is not a better scenario than having people ready to run and hide from the shooter or fist fight them. People will get a gun if they want one, one way or another no matter how hard you ban.
Just an example I can think of off the top of my head, the Texas church shooting where an armed parishioner took down the gunman and saved a bunch of people. Granted, a bunch of psycho church goers sued the guy for trauma they experienced watching him shoot the gunman. But I’m sure they were just taking advantage of the situation for some money.
again, that argument falls absolutely fucking flat bc the data shows that the presence of an armed school resource officer doesn’t deter a shooter, with Uvalde right there in your face as the example… usually i’m up for gun regulations conversation bc i’ve formatted proper regulations/restrictions that most people agree with. today, i just fucking can’t. i was in 6th grade thinking of my little brother when Sandy Hook happened. Congress failed Uvalde bc they LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN to them.
i need you to imagine me, at 13, sitting in my classroom, thinking of my little brother’s mortality as I fathomed the victims’ gory deaths in a bloody elementary school classroom… I continued to see it in city after city after city. By 9th grade, I’d resigned myself to choosing “Fight” til the death if a shooter entered my school… Think about that. As a teen, I had prepared a strategy in every classroom, hallway, and bathroom of how to flank, direct classmates out, and melee an imminent threat…
I was ready to die for my classmates as a teenager. At 14-18y, I had to consciously consider my and my classmates’ mortality to determine how to best maintain their survival. It’s absolutely depressing and sad that that’s what I had to think about during my downtime. We didn’t even have any StopTheBleed kits installed back then!! Now there’s a whole billion dollar market for school shooter defense products… it’s fucking grotesque. I’m sick of the gun lobby.
But what do we do about the one lunatic that inevitably gets ahold of a gun? This is the user we keep circling around. Very noble of you to plan risking yourself for your classmates but many wouldn’t do that. And without bent arms you wouldn’t get very far, you’d basically sacrifice yourself and the gunman would keep going
You are delusional if you think anyone is campaigning to ban all guns entirely and ban more guns in more places… It’s the point of sale, registrations, training/licensing, and other regulations that provide the clear freedom of the 2nd amendment with the common sense that other countries have implemented. 1) req. insurance 2) first time purchase training* 3) titles for ownership transfer 4) registrations* like vehicles 5) gun lockers at ranges* *the PD and VA get ALL registration & course fees
competent veterans and retired officers run the ranges, gun lockers, and instruct the courses. these could be museums as well (old base, PD station, etc.). “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” we implement tags and licensing for sportsmen firearms constantly. we have the infrastructure to protect our country if we cared enough for our neighbors. we lose nothing. some enthusiasts are slightly inconvenienced for the sake of others lives.
Without these regulations, it’s EASY for mass shootings to happen. We have seen them SKYROCKET since the expiration of the ban during the Obama administration. We’ve done nothing about it. I’ve been so traumatized that I cannot even watch a comedy with gun violence, like the fucking Ballad of Buster Scruggs. Why not make it just a little bit harder for it to happen?? Think of the victims, but think of the THOUSANDS of first responders who have had to handle these mangled or dying bodies…
if you can agree with all five points including the asterisk, then you’re just an pro-gun + pro-regulation as the next person. i’m so tired of bringing them up and they all pass with people actively carrying on the sidewalk but they still eat it up when gun regulations are dunked on. it’s just exhausting, man. bare minimum, that’s all anyone is asking for. nothing revolutionary.