Anonymous #1 3w

Do you believe that Alexander the Great existed? He’s in every history book, and his existence was confirmed from 250 manuscripts. Jesus has 25,000 manuscripts confirming his existence…

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Anonymous #1 3w

And the shroud of Turin, is an object that should not exist by any explanation of modern science…

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Anonymous OP 3w

This is what you people sound like constantly. Lmao cope harder.

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Anonymous #1 3w

You can roast me all you want, I’m still winning. I couldn’t image living like someone like you again. How many mental disorders have you and your friends been diagnosed with?😂im guessing at least half have some form of depression, or anxiety. Take an L and live like that for the rest of your life or just stop being difficult. You literally have nothing to lose but your ego❤️

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Anonymous OP 3w

Imagine posting about a bombing and including “Christ is king.” Idiotic

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Anonymous OP 3w

I’m SO glad I don’t live a life in fear of a “hell” and in fear of a “loving god” who will send you there just because you don’t love him back. Your god is worse than an abusive father but you’re too far gone to understand that, just like most abuse victims. You’re the only one with an ego thinking you’re above everyone for your beliefs in one god out of 18,000 in the world 💀💀💀

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Anonymous #2 3w

Atleast he ain’t got us out here murdering women for not covering their face or going out after curfew. SMH.

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Anonymous OP 3w

And “educated” is the furthest thing from what you are because you can never claim education on religion when yours is the only one you have “studied”. Open your world view, read a book other than the Bible, and actually engage with the world. Knowledge is power and freedom.

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Anonymous #1 3w

He doesn’t live by Christ’s words at all, so don’t reinforce his idea of being a Christian. He is falsely representing the religion

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Anonymous #1 3w

Bruh. What is this accusation stemming from? In the Quran, Jesus is literally mentioned and was born from a virgin. It’s just he’s not the messiah, simply a prophet. This joke of a religion, that spreads violence across the globe, is another reason to believe in the one and only. He also appears in Buddhism, Manichaeism and Sikhism, among many others.

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Anonymous #1 3w

The main reason I am grateful for my religion is how I’ve been humbled by the words of Christ. However, people using their beliefs to belittle others and different religions embarrasses me.

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Anonymous #2 3w

No I think it’s very correctly represented given all the Bible actually says and justifies. The Bible teaches to marry women you rape and many other horrid ways of being. Love is not the center of the Bible to any degree, so imo, it’s correctly represented by bigoted thinking.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Nvm I don’t belong in this conversation

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Anonymous #2 3w

You’re totally valid in your beliefs and are welcome to believe if it suits you. It’s your choice. It’s just that not everyone needs it to be a good and productive person. Some do and that’s ok. It makes some people better and it makes some worse.

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Anonymous #2 3w

As Christian we should detest false Gods. How can you be a Christian and just be cool with so many people burning in hell for entirety. Many of them sent there by a terroristic dictator. 40,000 protesters killed!!! And killed for trying to learn another religion. It’s heartbreaking. But it’s unethical for me to make jokes right? SMH double standards go crazy

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Anonymous #1 3w

It’s just given me a lot of faith and hope after very hard times. I don’t live by every word, but the belief of having someone giving me purpose motivates me.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Thank you and I’m going to post about it on Yik yak and my first amendment allows 😘

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Anonymous #1 3w

I fully agree with you

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Anonymous OP 3w

The Quran is as violent as the Bible and Torah. Each are dumb and unnecessary and spread through colonialism. I am not defending any of these religions. If you actually do your research, you’ll find out that many many Bible concepts were taken from older stories and religions. They aren’t even original concepts and they were stolen. But I’m sure you’re too scared to find those things out through research because it might shake your world view.

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Anonymous OP 3w

And you cannot detest any other gods you haven’t actually learned about because you don’t even know of them. There are 18,000 other gods historians have counted and over 45,000 different Christian denominations but I’m sure YOURS is the correct one out of ALL those, right? Please be so fr. Get educated. 🤣

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Anonymous #1 3w

CAP. The Bible is 99.5% textually pure and has helped archeologists uncover more than historic 25,000 sites. Additionally, EVERY story where God destroys a city, he warns the innocent and the righteous prior to the destruction.

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Anonymous OP 3w

25000 historic sites*

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Anonymous #2 3w

And I’m happy for you if it helps you! Some people find it therapeutic and good for themselves and that’s a great thing. As long as it’s about you personally and your own relationship with your god, it’s all good!

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yeah I’m disengaging because you’re very much not willing to learn anything and do real research. The Bible was written by different human beings over 400 years and you don’t think people changed it as they went to fit their own personal narratives? News flash: they did, and so many of these changes are traceable. Matthew Mark Luke and John didn’t even exist. These texts were fully anonymous and so people gave the script writers names as they went. Again, education is a powerful thing.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Did the part about 99.5% texturally pure go over your head? And clearly they weren’t full of crap if 25,000 historic sites from the Bible have been found. Obviously there is truth in there. And explain the sulfur found on Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible said God raining burning sulfur to destroy the city. The sulfur from that biblical city, has a different mineral composition than any other sulfur on the planet.

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Anonymous #1 3w

The centralization is where it all goes wrong. I have just learned to love the spirituality aspect of it. I guess I’m not necessarily a theist, but more an individual who believes I was made with a purpose.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I respect that! I personally don’t care whether or not I’m here for a reason or purpose. I’ve just accepted that I am here and I’m making the best with what I’ve been given and building a good life for myself and others I love. Our lives are what we make of them.

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Anonymous #3 3w

No

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Anonymous #3 3w

I’m SURE he’s not educated enough to even know his god is the same as Muslims and Jewish peoples god lol

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Anonymous OP 3w

I’m curious, do you believe that there are other gods that exist?

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Anonymous #4 3w

According to what he said about “false gods” no. He wouldn’t believe in any other gods existence because it goes against his beliefs.

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Anonymous #1 3w

I believe he said “thou shall worship no other God before me”, Which is an acceptance of other gods. Or do you not like original text translations?

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Anonymous #4 3w

Well most Christians do not believe other gods exist and that other gods are worshipped but are not real, so I stand by what I said.

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Anonymous #1 3w

That’s fine, but it shows the lack of understanding of the Bible.

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Anonymous #4 3w

And they might have a lack of understanding which so many do. I’ve never talked to a Christian who believes other gods exist and I’ve asked multiple times but I’m not Christian don’t believe any exist so it doesn’t apply to me

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Anonymous OP 3w

I actually cackled that you brought up the shroud of Turin. Every decent scholar knows it’s a medieval creation based on the weave type, radiocarbon dating, and historical record. The first historical mention of the shroud was the Bishop of Troyes calling it a forgery in 1389 lol.

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Anonymous OP 3w

What is “textually pure” even supposed to mean lol. We know the Bible was written by numerous different authors over several centuries. I bet the Lord of the Rings is “textually pure.” Sodom and Gomorrah have been tentatively connected to Numeira and Bab edh-Dhra but that’s not conclusive. And those cities were both abandoned 250 years apart.

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Anonymous #6 3w

Like I’m a nerd on biblical history and archeology and it’s so funny how many worlds away these claims are from the actual scholarship.

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Anonymous #6 3w

Exactly. I didn’t even have the energy to unpack that. Homie just saying shit to say shit. No actual research or education has been attained. I love being educated.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Actually theologically his God is not the same. Jesus isn’t god in Judaism or Islam

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Anonymous #1 3w

Shroud of Turin has DNA from all over the world In equal concentrations. How is that possible? Wouldn’t you expect mainly one type of DNA? Also the image on the shroud of the face of Jesus is a negative image, the only thing that existed at the time were positive images. And the blood stayed red, do to compound released by the body under extreme stress, hinting at crucification. And they found large amounts of pollen mainly from the plant thought to be shaped into his crown of thorns. Based on..

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Anonymous #6 3w

And they carbon dated a patch that was made to the shroud several hundred years later after it had been burned in a fire.

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Anonymous #6 3w

So may I ask you. Do you believe in Alexander the Great and if so why not Jesus? Also, you never mentioned anything related to the several thousand archeological sites found in relation to the TRUTH put forward in the Bible. Truth be told. Everything I’ve said is not the reason I believe in him. I can feel him, and I used to not be able to. but to feel him you have to faith, and I don’t know how to start people down that road.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I think Jesus likely existed. There were large number of Jewish preachers active at that time. Dositheos, John the Baptist, Ha-Mitzri. Jesus was part of a larger religious trend, it’s just that his sect is the one that became most popular. It wasn’t the only one to survive though, John the Baptist had followers who were not absorbed into the growing Christian movement. They are still around today as the Mandaeans.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yeah the Bible has many real archaeological sites. We have confirmed that the Troy spoken of in Homer’s Odyssey really existed. Does that mean I should be looking for Athena or a Cyclops?

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Anonymous OP 3w

DNA from all over the world??? That’s just untrue lol. You can make negative images. It seems the shroud was probably made by dying over a carved relief. All the stuff of the shroud indicates a later date. They did not have that type of weave in first century Judea. People were not buried in a single flat sheet. Jesus wouldn’t even have looked like that. Why do you care about the shroud so much? It’s an obvious fake, the Bishop of Troyes knew that.

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Anonymous #6 3w

Like the shroud being fake isn’t gonna make you stop being Christian. So frankly I don’t get why you (or the Catholic Church) are going to jump through so many hoops and repeat so many falsehoods to pretend it’s authentic.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yeah like you just said all these things aren’t why you are Christian. Your belief system isn’t based on evidence. It’s based on faith. So why try to argue about this at all if it doesn’t matter?

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Anonymous #6 3w

OP probably thinks the earth is 6000 years old, Noah’s flood was real, and evolution is fake too lol

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Anonymous #6 3w

Cameras did not exist back then, and there is no reason for an artist to create an image that could not be seen or interpreted by the human eyes. Also the 3D nature of the garment, where the image intensity varies inversely with the distance from the body, no human art work can replicate that because it’s a negative. To make a high resolution neg with no distortion the image would need to be vertically collimated, so how’s it 3D? They examined the shroud and found no residues of paints or dyes.

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Anonymous #6 3w

Also what does the Bishop of Troyes know. The negative image wasn’t found until the 1800s. Also I just told you they carbon dated a patch made to the garment several hundred years later. It needs to be done again with another section of the garment.

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Anonymous #3 3w

Then disprove him, oh wait billions have tried all have failed. What you believe is the universe started from nothing, or a small ball of matter that exploded. You belief in the beginning dirt, I believe in a beginning intelligent being. They are both religions yours just provides you nothing in life while mine got my back

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Anonymous OP 3w

Oh and who made the matter in the ball originally? And if it was also there then why can we date the planet🤔

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Anonymous OP 3w

Always*

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Anonymous OP 3w

They’ve literally found pigments on the shroud lol. The proportions do not match an actual human but match medieval art. People have recreated the image on the shroud by pigmenting over a bas-relief. Come on dude.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Religious people going “nuh uh” when others present evidence doesn’t mean people “failed to disprove him.” It just means they’re stubborn and are motivated by faith and not intellectual honesty.

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Anonymous OP 3w

This last message is just incomprehensible

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Anonymous #6 3w

I tried man, I gotta go to work. Good luck in hell. Hope it’s worth the risk, just cause you want to live your life like an asshole.

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Anonymous #6 3w

Also you mind linking the article where they miraculously recreated the image??

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Anonymous #6 3w

Like you can even look at the history of artistic depictions of Jesus and trace when the bearded long haired image popular in Europe became commonplace. The Jesus we see in the shroud of Turin is what Europeans depicted Jesus as at the time (and today). It’s not what Jesus was originally depicted as. In art, Jesus was beardless for the first 3 centuries. Him becoming long-haired and bearded was an artistic divergence to make him resemble Greek philosophers.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I’m dedicating my life to scientific progress and conservation. I am kind and compassionate, because I seek to make life better for as many people as possible. I don’t live my life “like an asshole.” I live a humanistic life of good will for my fellow people.

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Anonymous OP 3w

https://phys.org/news/2005-06-turin-shroud-fake.html https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/shroud-of-turin-wasnt-laid-on-jesus-body-but-rather-a-sculpture-modeling-study-suggests

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Anonymous OP 3w

You’re not very bright

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