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Russia practicing Human Safari tactics as of late within Kherson Oblast. Adding to the long list of war crimes.
10 upvotes, 15 comments. Sidechat image post by reallynow in US Politics. "Russia practicing Human Safari tactics as of late within Kherson Oblast. Adding to the long list of war crimes."
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Anonymous 20w

No side is innocent in this war, Ukraine used AI drones to do the same indiscriminate killing, and both sides use civilians as cover for their operations.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

I’ve seen no evidence showing Ukraine used AI face recognition on anyone except combatants

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

Russian killings of Civilians are far more prominent and actively targeted compared to Ukraine. This includes deliberate targeting of civilian vehicles, population centers, and infrastructure. As for the AI claim, that’s primarily when such drones are disconnected or jammed in areas with Russian Militants. Striking of a civilian is highly unlikely in these areas, and in most cases the Ukrainian drone operator has seen and identified the target before being jammed.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomous-drones-have-killed-human-soldiers-for-the-first-time/ To your credit there is no confirmation of Russian civilian casualties, however this article openly admits that the drones are indiscriminate and fully autonomous.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

I believe autonomous weapons should be banned just for the record

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

I agree completely

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

“We tried it,” says drone-maker Alexander Kokhanovskyy, who supplied the technology and spoke to New Scientist at a press event hosted by the Ukrainian embassy. “It’s a test. We never implemented it [more widely].” Currently banned by the Ukrainian government to use AI for the entire operation anyways, especially the final parts of an operation. Within your own article.

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Anonymous replying to -> reallynow 20w

Perfectly fine for them to leave target assessment up to the AI model still, and thats exactly what they did.

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Anonymous replying to -> reallynow 20w

I can't seriously believe that an AI model trained on data from a war where both sides are using civilians as cover will not wrongly assess a civilian as a target, even if Ukrainian forces drove it to the drop off point.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

Ukrainian operators have to identify and verify the targets before the operation is taken to the end of its course. The identification can be made by AI but is not conducted unless confirmed by the operator of the drone.

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Anonymous replying to -> reallynow 20w

That is normally the case but here it notably was not, as these drones were fully autonomous and Ukrainian forces weren't even present in the area until the confirmation occurred after the drone attack.

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Anonymous replying to -> reallynow 20w

Ukrainian forces were not even aware if these drones had hit their targets until going in the sector and confirming after.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

Again, taken place once in 2023. After which rules were enacted to rule against that.

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Anonymous replying to -> reallynow 20w

To my point that neither is all so innocent

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

One is certainly much more so. What you’re essentially doing is the lesser evil is still evil argument. In this case, the obvious is here, and its Russia is doing far, far more war crimes and intentionally.

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