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If the boats struck off the coast are drug boats, is it not justified? I have never once heard anyone blame the Chinese people for getting addicted to opium when the British flooded their country. Why do we blame Americans who get taken advantage of?
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Anonymous 1w

You can't murder people for alleged drug trafficking

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Anonymous 1w

You cant kill people for drug trafficking. ESPECIALLY not alleged drug trafficking. You can arrest them when they get to shore and even then you couldnt sentence them to death for those charges. NONE of it is acceptable

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Anonymous 1w

No, it’s not justified. You can’t do that in international waters. We don’t even do that to ships carrying Russian or Iranian oil, and we have a much better reason to do that

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Anonymous 1w

So there’s this cool thing where if you don’t put someone on trial, you can’t demonstrate that they’re actually a drug trafficker. Instead you’re just having extrajudicial executions for alleged perpetrators of a crime that doesn’t even carry the death penalty. Anybody could be accused of drug trafficking but if they get blown up immediately there’s no way to prove it. And the Trump admin hasn’t provided much information to actually demonstrate they were actually traffickers

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Anonymous 1w

It is justified

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Venezuela doesn’t even export much of the drug we’ve been blaming them for 😭 they export cocaine, not fentanyl

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Well if you target a oil tanker the same way it blows up and that’d be an ecological disaster so I’m not sure how similar those are

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Cocaine is still an addictive drug that is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. The Venezuelan government knowingly permits the drug trade. To me that seems to be the root of the problem.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

What do we do then? Hundreds of thousands of Americans die every year from drugs much of which is smuggled in. And if your position is true, were the Opium wars wrong?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

US citizens carry it across the border. Maybe we should give them the death penalty like East Asia does

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I’m sure the war in Ukraine is a larger ecological disaster than one oil tanker explosion

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Regardless for the tankers, we do use force against them. We just captured one this week. A major concern though is that Russia has nukes. Venezuela does not. It is prudent not to raise tensions with nuclear powers. But I think we can all agree that if we blow up an oil tanker in the caribbean that is not good news for our citizens that live along the coast so capturing or disabling them is a much better option

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I do agree, the penalties for smuggling/distributing should be much harsher

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

Supposing we accept this line of reasoning, why doesn’t Venezuela do more to stop the drug trade? These vessels continue to be launched despite numerous kinetic strikes. They are also not flagged. If they were serious about stopping narcotics trafficking, the US wouldn’t need to interdict by force. The drug traffickers actions result in the deaths of thousands. Though the strikes are a crude use of force, how else do you enforce a blockade if not by force at the end of the day

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

We should bomb Colombia instead. That’s where the cocaine comes from. It’s simply passing through Venezuela

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

At the very least, whether venezuela dos enough to stop the drug trade or not doesnt matter here. If they’re showing up on our soil and coming to our country it becomes our problem to deal with. It doesnt matter what country it comes from. And if we know enough about the boat and where it is to bomb it, we can figure out where specifically theyre going and meet them there to arrest them. They should be ready to use deadly force just in case but that should be an absolute last resort

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

Also, the boat they blew up was an ALLEGED drug boat when they bombed it. How would it look for us if later it turned out not to be a drug boat? And what if countries take the bombings as a threat to their safety rather than drug bombings The risks of bombing are too much

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

Dude thank you this is nuts. Fishermen are already dealing with reduced catches bc they can’t do deep water fishing for fear of getting struck by a missile. Also yes drugs are bad but so are arms or bombs or anything else illegal. Still, we have rules for appropriate sentences and the death penalty for smuggling isn’t it. We don’t even kill enemy soldiers if they surrender and these are civilians

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Fucking arrest them. You're calling for murder.

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