Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

TPUSA are such cowards, one time they flagged me down at their table, and playing a little dumb, I said “oh yeah, y’all are that right-wing organization, right?” intentionally with no judgment in my voice, and the President of the club was SCRAMBLING to quickly declare that they were non-partisan, and had no answer when I said “Well, non-partisan doesn’t mean non-ideological, now does it?”

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Anonymous #3 4w

Predictive policing is to say trying to punish crime before it happens. You know? The motivation of like half of all dystopian stories ever written?

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Well thats not predictive policing then, it's predictive court action.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Also, I *wish* police were just the evidence-finding investigators of crimes that have already happened, and not the Poor Community Patrollers who treat every denizen of that community like criminals by default. If the only cops were the detectives and the militarized units were EXCLUSIVELY used for ongoing hostage situations, I probably wouldn’t even have much of an issue with them. But they just can’t escape the slave-catcher and segregation-enforcer parts of their past, as departments.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Well I'm gonna make an assumption here and say you don't know a whole lot about policing, since you'd rather they act as a reactive force than a proactive one.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

I’ve had a homicide victim as a family member. The detective investigating his case treated me very well, had a deeply sensitive emotional character when talking with relatives of victims, and did a job within the police department that is unequivocally important. I would never suggest that his job is unimportant, or needs abolition. But for every one cop like him, there’s 10 dipshit beat cops harassing some Black teenager for looking the wrong way in his own neighborhood, with no pretext.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

I doubt the cops you've spoken to would be so kind to the idea that they should not proactively enforce the law, that is the point of their job after all.

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Anonymous #3 4w

That is in fact how criminal investigations go, in response to crimes. The work of investigation is seeing when something has happened, and figuring out who did it so they can’t do it again. You can’t prevent the original crime by the person who’s never offended before though, and attempting to will ALWAYS be authoritarian in character.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Also, Broken-Windows Policing, sold as proactive action since the Drug War, has been proven a failure by all metrics. If you strive for a proactive police force, that’s great and there’s better ways to prevent crime than being militarized occupiers, but the fact is that what they’ve BEEN calling proactive action since the Drug War does not prevent crime. It has had no impact on the rates of violent crime. Because for all their patrols, the cops still aren’t ever there when shit goes down.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Efficient authoritarianism in policing is one of the most useful tools to prevent crime.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

In a reactive policing world, every school shooting is Uvalde. I would much rather have some communist loser on the internet whining about how cops are too authoritarian than public school classrooms full of dead people because nobody has been trained to act.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Well the status quo in policing for the last 40 years seems to be inefficient authoritarianism. They turn entire communities against them by treating the guilty and the innocent exactly the same, with no pretext, and then they blame the community for not trusting them enough to aid them when they actually need the community’s help.

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Anonymous #3 4w

I know some good cops. I’ve talked about that already. But the overall policing system? Rotten to its core.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

I did something similar lmao, really funny to listen to them try to act like they’re non partisan. Same vibes as the Christ on campus people lurking around trying to convince gay students that there’s a place for them in the Christian church

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Anonymous #3 4w

Brother, Uvalde literally happened under our current system of policing. Mfs cared more about stopping the parents than the shooter. That was literally current American cops, and you wanna tell me how “oh well under your system things like <thing that happened under current system> would happen” lmao

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

They literally reacted to the situation on hand, using a barricaded room as an excuse to hesitate before breaching. The proactive move would be for the first cop on scene to go in immediately and at least try to stop the threat.

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Anonymous #2 4w

This is an entirely fair point to make and I concur. I do still believe they would be appalled at the surveillance state we live under

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