Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Because orangutan is good friend of bucket also bucket doesn’t know what you are talking about:3

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

That they think we should ethnically cleanse North America Europeans.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Bucket sees no issue with this stance :3

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

That’s crazy, what’s your ethnicity I’m just curious?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Bucket will give you a hint

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

Definitely white, idk what the joke is.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Bucket is bucket

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

Yeah lmao definitely white. I’m not as white hating as you guys but I know how cringey my race is.

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

This is some shit only a suburban white person could say.

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

What percent indigenous American should you be so you aren’t part of the white ethnic cleansing? I’m just checking.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Tbh I don’t believe your words and I was just giving you a smartass response because supporting genocide of any king goes against my morality especially my own kind

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

Yes he unironically does, ask him next time.

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

I wish I had screenshots but the post was long ass time ago and it got downvoted probably to non existence but whenever I’ve brought it up he hasn’t denied it.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Ya as an edgy joke but I know the serious answer will be no because we don’t support white genocide that would be stupid as much as I hate what European Americans have done to this land

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

It would be insane of me to support their genocide because it’s goes against my morality and two we make up the majority

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

I actually found it lol

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

ethnic cleansing where? europeans are from europe

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

and if proposing that the european diaspora resettle back in europe is too radical, i’ll propose a more moderate solution: deport the white supremacists back to europe

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

So if a white nationalist government kicks out all of the African Americans to Africa that’s not ethnic cleansing bc they’re “from Africa”

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

Him coming in unironically defending it lol.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

I’m not going after you for being radical I just want people to know you suffer from weed psychosis. I think you should be more openly radical instead of the weird shying away from your more crazy opinions.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

weed psychosis is crazy. you’re crazy, man

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

yes, that’s ethnic cleansing. does the recognition of indigenous nations mean ethnic cleansing to you? i say europeans should resettle bc that’s what whites would do anyway. the privileges and ethno-supremacist policies are dissolved and whites leave. this is called white flight

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

It’s not crazy when you’re talking about ethically cleansing a large portion of a country. I’m curious though what percent of indigenous American would you have to be?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

indigeneity has nothing to do with racial pseudoscience, it is a relationship to land and colonialism

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Wait if that’s ethnic cleansing then what’s the meaningful difference between the two dipshit ?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Ok just ramble instead of answering the question. I didn’t ask you about racial pseudoscience. How do you determine if someone is white or not?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

because whites wield structural power where Black and indigenous peoples do not. in the case where indigenous and Black nations are recognized, all peoples would possess equal structural power, because the white supremacist state would have been dissolved

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

whiteness is dynamic? usually participation and support for colonialism and white supremacy is what determines if someone is white. you for example, are white. europeans in diaspora do not have to continue to adhere to an identity that strips them of their culture and their history

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

and perhaps, you just don’t understand what i’m saying, and that’s fine. we don’t all have to know everything

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Ok that also not answering anything but I’ll ask you another question you won’t answer. Are you against non white people moving to Europe then bc that could create unequal structural power?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

So if I just believe I’m anti U.S. that would make me not white by your definition?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

No you’re just not making sense I’m asking you specific questions stop trying to weasel out of everything.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

not all people living in europe 1) historically have been considered white, and 2) are white. so no, idgaf if people beyond europe move to europe

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

now let’s clear this up, immigration is not colonization. white settlers in the states, are not the same as migrants seeking asylum in the nations who exploit their home countries

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

what europeans did, was sail across the ocean, enslave the indigenous peoples, Africans, the Irish, and other nonwhite peoples, enacted genocidal policies towards various groups of nonwhite peoples, and still claim that their nations are legitimate whilst not deviating in the slightest from their violent and bloody histories, and while arming the best documented ethnic cleansing in human history

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

I’m not talking about what is historically considered white how many random irrelevant semantics points are we going to jump through. You said you are against structural inequality why would having a minority population in a white country not create structural inequality.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

but it’s problematic when i, a european stranded beyond europe, propose that the other europeans also stranded beyond their continent reflect on their history and identity and consider moving off of the land their ancestors stole by rape and murder? that means white genocide to you?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

We all agree on what European did this is just going to be a situation where whenever I push on a point you’re gonna ramble about nothing.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

i think you’re just illiterate lol

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Are you saying Europeans should only leave of their own free will or are you saying they should be forced regardless if they want to or not (obvious ideally in your world they would willingly go)

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

and there’s nothing wrong with that, to be clear, although maybe work on it ?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

i’m saying it should be left to the discretion of the indigenous nations, it’s their land. if Africans in diaspora can develop a pan-African framework rooted in anti colonialism and socialism, then so can europeans in diaspora

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Ok stop hiding your opinion just say you’re ok with ethnic cleansing, it’s ok just defend the idea.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

i’m just really confused where you’re getting ethnic cleansing from

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Do you not know what that means?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Bucket is also confused

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

You’re saying if these hypothetical nations wanted to kick out all the white people you would be ok with that, that’s ethnic cleansing definitionally.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

I like how I’m being called illiterate but neither of you even know what that term means.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

forcing an ethnic group to move away from an area even if they aren’t indigenous simply because of their ethnicity is ethnic cleansing yeah, you can support it but it is ethnic cleansing by definition under international law

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Anonymous #1 4w

damn, imminent domain when used to displace Black neighborhoods to build highways is ethnic cleansing. dissolve the US

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

need i mention when a pipeline has to cross an indigenous reservation (bc we can’t even fully recognize the sovereignty of the nations we occupy)

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Anonymous #1 4w

y’all are bitching about a hypothetical white genocide that would simply never happen, whilst several genocides occur by the nation y’all think has a right to exist

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

So ethnic cleansing makes ethnic cleansing ok?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Internally your thought process doesn’t even make sense.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

whites would not be ethnically cleansed if indigenous nations were recognized, this is the logic zionists use to justify a two-state solution. much like a singular Palestinian state does not mean Jewish genocide, indigenous sovereignty in the occupied Americas likewise would not result in the genocide if the settler class. what i am proposing is a voluntary pan-european movement that this moron is too willingly incompetent to understand

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

go figure the moron named blue__wave, as the Democratic party ramps up to lose yet another (rigged now) election, is willfully misinterpreting everything that has been said

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

I mean you advocated for the return of all white people to Europe which I’d assume would be through some sort of coercion or force? Like I’m all for empowering marginalized communities but committing actual war crimes on a massive scale to get to that point defeats the purpose of creating a safer more just world

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Anonymous #1 4w

why does it have to be forceful?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

we literally came here on boats. we can’t just go back ?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

That not my point, my point is you said you would be ok with these hypothetical nations doing that. Thats pro ethnic cleansing or the very least you don’t think it’s wrong.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

no, i said let them decide, because i doubt they would deport all white people LMFAO

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

You’re no even understanding what I’m saying. I think you literally just learned what ethnic cleansing means.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

if it’s not forceful why would people want to leave the lives they’ve built here

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Why wouldn’t just say they shouldn’t do that? We’re not talking about what would happen in your fantasy world, we’re talking about what you think is morally acceptable.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

they are not going to commit the crimes perpetrated against them, they just want their fucking land that our nation has stolen from them. it’s sorta the bare minimum, given that we purged most of them into nonexistence. it’s also a crucial climate policy, seeing as we inventoried our remaining old growth forests under biden, for the to be logged under trump. indigenous peoples protect land, white people exploit it

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Saying you would let them decide implies you don’t think it’s necessarily wrong.

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Anonymous #1 4w

why did whites leave the cities when Black people were granted (not even) equal opportunity in the south?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Again we’re not talking about what you think would happen in your fantasy world we’re talking about what you think is morally ok. Would it be bad if these hypothetical nation states deported all Europeans?

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Anonymous #1 4w

why did (do) white south Africans come here, after apartheid has been dissolved?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Yeah number #1 remember when every white person left the cities that’s a great own.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

i’m saying that whites have a habit of self sorting themselves away when the privileges granted to them by colonialism and white supremacy vanish

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

white flight

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Answer the question, you’re so Weasley yes or no would it be wrong?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

66% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck, people can’t just freely move like that lol, it’s more difficult than it used to be

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Anonymous #1 4w

the irish were literally victims of genocide when they fled here btw

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

and it’s not simply bc we’re racist it’s also bc we exploit the most therefore we have the most wealth, people would want to follow where the opportunities are

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Lmao the rambling he’ll never answer an actual question.

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

What’s going on why are we all arguing

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

genocide is a stretch, Britain cared more about adhering to laissez-faire economics than exterminating the Irish population, the government even provided (albeit limited and nowhere near enough) support through food aid it was incompetent economists not deliberately planned extermination

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

blue__wave is being a stupid liberal

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Anonymous #1 4w

But it was deliberate you Anglophile!

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Why doesn’t he just keep his opinions to himself?

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

Notice how you’ll never answer that question. If it’s so stupid then engage with my point and own me instead of hiding from the question. Would it be wrong yes or no?

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

If you don’t like my opinions stop engaging with me you’re my biggest hate fan.

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I think it’s more similar to like the Holodomor in Ukraine, in a genocide like Rwanda the state is actively rounding up and exterminating people, people died because the state refused to act effectively rather than state actively exterminating them, it’s a crime against humanity, it’s administrative mass murder, but not genocide bc it was caused by inaction rather than continued action to exterminate

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Anonymous #1 4w

the kulaks burnt their grain. the Irish were forced to sell their crops to make rent. they could only eat potatoes, and when the blight came, and the British refused to quit strangling the Irish economically, the starvation and emigration began

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Anonymous _orangutan 4w

shocker, landlords were the issue in both instances (kulaks and British absentee landlords)

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

I just wish you would stop sharing your opinion, that’s all

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

I can’t believe I’m siding with land trust against you

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

That’s embarrassing to openly state.

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

The feeling is mutual except you don’t rlly give opinions you kinda just vague respond to things.

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

I know I’m giving the crazy opinion that ethnic cleansing is bad lol, crazy take.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

It only appears vague because the enlightenment philosophy is backwards and 1 dimensional. That being said, I’m not selfish enough to share my opinion despite knowing nobody wants to hear it (most of the time). You also know nobody wants to hear your opinion, but you’re too selfish to stop yourself from sharing it anyways

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Btw we are in your party. We are taking it over. And there’s nothing you can do about it

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

“I’m not selfish enough to share my opinion” *proceeds to give their opinion*

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

That’s crazy people with Down syndrome are taking over my party.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Liberals being eugenics supporters what a surprise

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

What lmao how am I pro eugenics ?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Why were you implying that people with Down syndrome taking over your shit party that deserves to be changed as a bad thing unless you think of people with Downs to be idk… LESSER

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

I didn’t say it was bad I said it was crazy. Lmao you stretched so hard to make that make sense.

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

Don’t you think it’s kinda crazy that you started out saying orangutan wouldn’t that and then they came in and defended it. I feel like that’s way crazier to be pro ethnic cleansing?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

My opinion about you is not the same as my political opinion.

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

No bc you only care about my opinion bc of my politics and you also give political opinions so idk what we’re saying here.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

You will see in the coming conventions. Your brand of liberalism is a thing of the past. Your individualism will be the thing that defeats you btw. But you’re so undisciplined you can’t control it 😂 so keep saying “you have down syndrome”. It suits you well

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

If you want a real opinion, I think you should be sent back to school

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

Ok I will lol, idk I can’t have another brain dead convo over what polling says about Americans. The average American 100% believes in whatever dumb shit you do.

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

Again just more political opinions you’re so selfish.

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

What does that even mean lol? I am in school this is a college app lol.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

I never gave my political opinion here. Just stating how the Democratic Party would be better off without you

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

True the Democratic Party would be better off without these establishment fucks tbh the curse of the people’s party will happen

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

The same peoples party the Democrats neutered a party my ancestors most likely were supportive of

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

That’s called an opinion

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 4w

Not the party your ancestors were likely supportive of. Was it the Nazi party the democrats did neuter them?

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

What’s a fake opinion I’m just curious also

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Yes, every opinion you have shouldn’t be one the rest of the world has to hear

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

I feel the same about yours

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Well you believe in my right to express it. I believe we should use time and place regulations to restrict you

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

lol ok

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

This is why you will lose and we will win btw. Do you finally see how your ideology is a contradiction?

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

No lol how is it?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

You will lose to “authoritarians”

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

If you don’t understand that’s on you. I’m not giving advice

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

lol so true

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Bot

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