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Moderate democrats need to realize you shouldn’t accommodate people on the fringe thinking you can reach across the divide. People who believe in populism they already believe you’re out to get them.The key issue with this take is that the people on the fringe who can’t be pandered to are the “moderate”/Republican-sympathizing democrats. Progressives are ACTIVELY trying to work with democrats because most of us see it as our only shot at political representation, and the mainstream/establishment is actively hostile to working with us because they’d rather pander to the right for some reason. Which doesn’t really help you beat the populism narrative either.
They aren’t hostile to you that’s the point. Any little push back you guys get reinforces the narrative there’s literally zero push I can give that won’t reinforce that narrative. That’s why it’s cancerous. It’s like when Andrew Tate says the “matrix will come for me” then he does a bunch of illegal shit. It’s a self filling prophecy that shields from literally all push back.
1) You forfeit basically all expectation of being taken seriously when you compare frustrated and disgruntled progressives asking for representation to Andrew fucking Tate. 2) They literally are hostile to us. The condition for democrats working with us as progressives is “You give up progressivism, and I will change nothing.” It’s been that way for ages.
1) no I don’t if you don’t like the analogy you cry about it but it doesn’t make it not true. Andrew Tate is a populist and uses the same rhetorical strategies. You can say there’s a matter of fact difference and I would even agree with you but it’s still the strategies. 2) If you want to go through specific examples go for it. At this point you’re agreeing with me, you think moderate Dems hate you. That’s why moderate Dems shouldn’t tip toe around being critical bc you believe it regardless.