Anonymous #1 2w

There have been 3 deaths by ICE, all unjustified. And all those immigrants who have done something bad have been dealt justice and imprisoned and not one cop nor ice grunt has been put to trial. And any cop who has been has either gotten off Scott free or been dealt the smallest possible conviction.

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Anonymous #2 2w

The Good shooting was completely justified, as she literally hit an ICE agent with her vehicle, and the agent was acting in self defense. Your second statement is false, not all immigrants have been dealt justice, as plenty have never even been caught since they’re not in any sort of database (not to even mention the deaths many have caused from narcoterrorism). I agree that the ICE agent who killed Pretti should be put on trial and punished accordingly, but only that agent.

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Anonymous #1 2w

She was turning away from the agent and also given conflicting info. At most she grazed him but he put himself in the position to be grazed by stepping in front of the goddamn car. And if you were so actually worried about people being hit by a car, maybe you wouldn’t be pro shooting the driver. Because that literally caused a car to operate on its own like we saw. Fuck you

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Anonymous #1 2w

I’m pretty sure you can’t claim self defense when you initiate the conflict. In other words, regardless of where she was driving, since the ice agent moved into the path of the car, he started it. Not to mention the speed she was going so he could’ve just moved out of the way

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Anonymous #4 2w

Who is a bigger fool: the pedophilic rapist felon as president who is making this country worse or the people who voted him back in AGAIN? If you got that message instead of me saying “there is no perfect candidate, you just are gonna have to pick the less bad one always”, then IDK what to tell you

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Anonymous #4 2w

She literally was not turning away? Have you seen the bodycam footage? Again, the driver was shot in self defense. That ICE agent was fearing for their life and acted accordingly. And a rogue driver is much more dangerous than a vehicle without one. Without a driver, it’s obvious where the vehicle will go. It is not when someone is driving one.

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Anonymous #6 2w

That’s not how the law works. That’s the same as saying if I were to stand in front of where you were walking, you could punch me because I “started it”. Not at all true. The person who initiates the violence is always in the wrong. And there have been several police officers who have sustained major injuries, or even died, being hit by slow-moving vehicles. It is not the officer’s prerogative to move out of the way, it is the citizen’s responsibility to respond safely to law enforcement.

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Anonymous #1 2w

They tear gassed four children. One of whom was a baby who needed CPR after the fact. The baby’s heart stopped. They killed that baby. Thankfully resuscitation was successful.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Feel free to send a screenshot of the direction where the wheels were pointed to prove me wrong!

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Anonymous OP 2w

I don’t wanna vote for someone because they are better than Hitler 3.0. I want them to earn my vote which is what this entire thing is supposed to be about

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Anonymous #4 2w

Well its not. Now what? We don’t live in a perfect, just, or even good society. It is never gonna be like that. So just suck it up do what you can which is vote for who u want in each election who will be best cause politics will ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils

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Anonymous #4 2w

You are the one who made the claim. You should be proving that it’s true, not the other way around. Burden of proof is on the one who makes the statement, hon.

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Anonymous #1 2w

So hey idiot, you claimed that she wasn’t turning away. My claim is the widely accepted consensus know as the truth. If you are going to go against that, the burden of proof is on you. Here is the photo tho. This is before the first shot was fired, the whee is angled in the opposite direction as Ross

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Anonymous #4 2w

Photo

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Anonymous #4 2w

First of all, it doesn’t matter if something is the “consensus”. A rule of debate is that if you want to cite evidence, you have to prove it. Secondly, the direction of the wheels is trivial. She still was going to hit an officer with her car. She was not only not cooperating with law enforcement, but she was going to physically harm them. Self defense was warranted.

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Anonymous #1 2w

If ICE had a precedent of purposefully standing in front of cars in order to justify use of deadly force, that’d be terrible for your argument…

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Anonymous #1 2w

So to be clear, you think the citizen needs to be more responsible than the law enforcement officer with the gun? That is ass backwards

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 2w

Proof?

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Anonymous #6 2w

Where did I say more responsible? I just said that we can’t absolve citizens of any responsibility, and they should listen to law enforcement when applicable. Protest has to be NONVIOLENT, which in the case of Renee Good, it was not. The officers obviously have to be responsible, but you can’t expect them to let themselves get hit by a vehicle. Their goal is to apprehend and prevent violence, but they shouldn’t let themselves needlessly get hurt.

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Anonymous #1 2w

“It is not the officers prerogative to move out of the way, it is the citizens responsibility to respond safely to law enforcement.”

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Anonymous #6 2w

How does that imply “more” responsibility? That aligns exactly with how I said it is the citizens’ responsibility to comply with law enforcement. ICE agents have tons of responsibility to keep people safe and to do their jobs efficiently - that’s what their training is for.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Jon Ross (Good’s murderer) previously had to get stitches after trying to attack another person in a car last year. He literally puts himself into dangerous situations with cars to manufacture a reason to use lethal force.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 2w

Do you even know what happened to Ross in that previous case? He asked the illegal immigrant to lower his window, and the man refused. He then broke the window with the maneuver they’re taught and attempted to apprehend the man. The man then drove his car, dragging Ross along the street with him, until Ross was able to successfully tase the man and bring him into custody. The illegal immigrant in this case was found guilty of assault a month ago, as Ross was seriously injured during this.

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Anonymous #1 2w

All of this information was easily accessible on the internet, but you chose to believe that Ross “attacked someone last year”, in order to establish a pattern that would find him guilty in Good’s case. That was a ridiculous assumption of the man’s character that is obviously not true from the facts of last year’s case. You have to do better here.

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