Anonymous #2 4d

if enough people were angry, we’d be fucking burning down government buildings for their complicity and crimes. No, people aren’t angry enough yet.

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Anonymous #3 4d

if people weren’t so angry, none of those crimes would’ve been committed in the first place. You’re trying to put Band-Aids on a bullet hole.

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Anonymous #3 4d

do you want to be angry forever? because that’s what you’re setting our future up for. What we need is not more anger what we need is understanding and love and empathy unconditionally

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Anonymous #3 4d

And that means everyone, not just one side or the other everyone must commit to this

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Anonymous #3 4d

otherwise, it just doesn’t work because everyone is still at each other other’s throats

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Anonymous #2 4d

What the fuck do you think is happening around you? I didn’t say anything about not having my empathy or understanding, so don’t make those assumptions; because I recognize that we need a combination of empathy, understanding, and ACTION to handle this shit. Your addiction to civility helps no one except the oppressors. Go research emancipation from South African apartheid, because this is utter bullshit. If you’re more worried about how people resist oppression, than you are the oppression

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Anonymous #3 4d

itself, then that’s something for you to reflect on. Peaceful resistance only works when it’s allowed to work; and unless those engaging in peaceful resistance understand the fundamental necessity for violent resistance in the case of nonviolence failing, then there will never be true emancipation. hiding complicity behind a facade of empathy is utterly wild. Thats only empathy for a specific group of people, while bullshitting everyone who’s suffering…

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Anonymous #2 4d

Lastly, get your facts in check. This shit is happening because of our unwillingness to address and root out systemic white supremacy. Don’t come at me about “bandaids on a bullet hole” when you can’t even recognize the fundamental root cause of this shit.

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Anonymous #3 4d

Having empathy means seeing humanity in the oppressor, seeing that oppression is not fundamental but created, taught, and practiced, seeing that oppression is corrosive even to the oppressor. If one extends care conditionally, that’s not empathy. It’s much more akin to oppression. And I’m not interested in how people resist oppression, I’m interested the way oppression is even created and upheld in the first place.

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Anonymous #3 4d

No where did I say complacency is the answer. In fact, I’m arguing the exact opposite. Love and gratitude cannot emanate from a nervous system dysregulated by fear, anger, and hatred, and this system is currently fueled by those latter three things. Continuing in that state is complacent itself. Yet people call that resistance. True resistance starts in the mind and behavior. Speaking out on its own is performative without intention and followthrough

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Anonymous #3 4d

What makes you think white supremacy is fundamental? Are you claiming it makes up the fabric of reality? That its a postulate?

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Anonymous #3 4d

Being gay and gender queer, I used to spew violent, hateful rhetoric towards the oppressor and it almost killed me. It took an out of body experience for me to understand how wrong I was for that.

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Anonymous #3 4d

I now understand that what I became was no better than the people that I was fighting against

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Anonymous #3 4d

now I understand that my identity doesn’t make me different. It’s just a part of being human. I realize now that I was only oppressed in my mind in my thinking because I carried out that final action on myself.

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Anonymous #3 4d

I may have systemic limitations, but that does not mean that I do not have the same full human potential. Just because a broken system defines me differently does not make me any less human than the people who hate me.

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Anonymous #3 4d

this issue is much bigger than “us versus them”, and I implore you to think more deeply about it.

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Anonymous #3 4d

you say I’m addicted to civility? The addiction that I actually struggled with was rage. So now what you’re saying is restraint. It would behoove you to find some yourself the same way I did. Restraint ≠ inaction

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Anonymous #2 4d

*seeing

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Anonymous #3 4d

the amount of comments I’ve posted should exemplify this principle

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Anonymous #3 4d

I restrained myself from violent thinking, but that hasn’t stopped me from speaking my damn mind. Take some notes.

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Anonymous #3 4d

I will say this again: what we need is not more anger, what we need is more awareness.

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Anonymous #3 4d

The social system has been rage baiting all of us for years with what is now becoming actual psychological warfare, and a huge reason it has gotten this bad is because we’ve continued to allow it to get to us instead of learning to recognize its taunts and fighting back against the real enemy: externalized cognitive influence. that manipulation is exactly what has turned us against each other and it carries out via fear, anger, and hate. psychology shows that scandal spreads faster than nuance

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Anonymous #3 4d

The present day conventions of media and governance explicitly exploit this weakness

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Anonymous #3 4d

Are you going to say anything??

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Anonymous #3 4d

Also, I take back what I said about Band-Aids on bullet holes. You’re trying to cover bullet holes with more bullets.

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Anonymous #3 4d

What we really need in this metaphor is firearm regulation. ain’t that a funny coincidence

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Anonymous #3 4d

I would really appreciate at least some sort of confirmation that you’re understanding what I’m saying because this shit is very crucial.

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Anonymous #2 3d

You’re deluded. “I was only oppressed in my mind in my thinking” I’m queer and nonbinary, I can relate; but to attempt to diminish the oppression our community and many others face? You’ve moved the goalposts so much that I can’t even tell what you’re trying to say, aside from incessantly defending yourself at all costs. In all honesty, I didn’t even want to respond after your crashout; but the content of what you’re saying is just so fucking stupid in this context, I had to.

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Anonymous #3 3d

As a final note on my way out, genuinely go research the “culture of white supremacy” if you’re actually curious about how systems of oppression are upheld. It might surprise you how intertwined white supremacy is with our existing societal norms, despite many people’s assumptions

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Anonymous #3 3d

I didn’t word that very well (I‘m only human) but rather than practicing the basic argumentative principle of charity, you took my word and interpreted it in the worst possible way and then deemed it a “crashout” and “fucking stupid” on no basis. I very obviously did not mean that oppression happens only in the mind. I said that oppression lived in my mind in addition to external oppressive infrastructure ONLY BECAUSE I enacted that thinking on myself, because I was policing my own mind forthem

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Anonymous #3 3d

That should have been at least somewhat clear based on all of the context and elaboration I provided.

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Anonymous #3 3d

You are choosing not to hear me and that is nobody‘s fault but your own.

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Anonymous #3 3d

If coherent reasoning does not land with you, that is nobody‘s fault but your own. If you don‘t understand something ask for clarification rather than doing the move of the oppressor and projecting falsehoods that make your apologetics easier to enact. Do better.

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Anonymous #3 3d

-Gilles Deleuze

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Anonymous #3 3d

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.” -Leo Tolstoy

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Anonymous #2 3d

go ahead and scroll up to see why I said you crashed out, as you send another 5 messages to attempt to portray a single point. If it hasn’t became obvious yet, I’m not paying attention to your strawmen arguments, nor responding to them. I’ll point you to my earlier closing statement one last time

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Anonymous #3 3d

I‘ll be praying for you so blinded with fear and hate that you can‘t see the truth before your very own eyes. That curse is one I wouldn‘t wish upon anyone. I hope you can heal soon. The world does not need more rage especially from the people who have been pressured more than most to carry that rage, and who become the most torn apart from it. I do it for ease.

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