Anonymous #1 9w

and she particularly suffered from psychosis. Which is completely different and its treatment is different. It can happen to anyone, you can fall into psychosis faster than you realize. For all mental disorders we need support most of all. And sometimes that means not being left alone for an extended period of time by the people in your life. And anyone has the capacity to do bad things with/without mental illnesses. It shows a lot about peoples ignorance and lack of empathy for everyone.

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Anonymous #2 9w

Anyone has the capacity to do bad things but mental instability makes one more vulnerable to committing it.

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Anonymous #2 9w

Ofc we show empathy it’s a horrible affliction to have but some things are just genuinely scary and need solutions that don’t involve anyone being put in danger who isn’t meant to be

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Anonymous OP 9w

prison isn’t the answer. bc then you’ll just keep being shocked by extreme cases, and people will keep dying.

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Anonymous #2 9w

Also similarly what can we do for murders committed during manic episodes for example because the perpetrator “wasn’t themselves”. What about the point of view of the victims and the people who worry about becoming victims.

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Anonymous #2 9w

Why not prison for perpetrators AND awareness campaigns and research into the affliction and better ways to monitor for it. Women’s health is grossly underfunded I agree yes so with better research into it we will be able to focus on preventive health while also prosecuting extreme cases like murder

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Anonymous OP 9w

Bobby Kennedy was killed by Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian activist and a man who suffered from psychosis and schizophrenia. After Kennedy’s death, the Kennedy’s fought for Sirhan to be placed in psychiatric facility to undergo treatment. When Pope John Paul II was shot and almost died, he fought for his attempted assassinator to be placed in a psychiatric facility and then meet the man and forgave him. Maybe they get psychiatric help and the families as well, and they all find peace.

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Anonymous OP 9w

maybe everyone has a bit more sympathy for each other. If you believe the only justice is death or suffering, you don’t believe in justice. You believe in revenge and vigilante justice.

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Anonymous OP 9w

so, you just debated with yourself? This has always been goddamn point.

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Anonymous #2 9w

Wait I never said that awareness isn’t important. My point is that yes it’s a tragedy these kids were murdered and it’s a tragedy that mothers are at risk of mental health complications. Remove her from society for murder and go deep on research and awareness for women’s mental health so that this doesn’t happen again. These incels are hijacking this tragedy for political points

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Anonymous OP 9w

you have been arguing with a “group of people” that do not really exist. You made up this conundrum in your own head. Now you admit you agree with what most other people are saying? Jesus dude. Whatever, glad you got there. At the end of the day, you’re still not any better than the people making this about anything other than the law and mental health.

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Anonymous #2 9w

Can we expect everyone to be as forgiving as the literal pope or the kennedys? This is not how a harmonious society can be maintained. How much of a relapse risk can we really take? How much does needs of the suffering of one matter against social harmony in the grand scheme of things

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Anonymous OP 9w

Omfg, just say you want her dead. Youre insufferable.

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Anonymous #2 9w

I apologize English is not my first language

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Anonymous OP 9w

And just say we should kill all psychotic and schizophrenic and intensely mentally ill people. That’s what you’re proposing fr.

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Anonymous OP 9w

right…

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Anonymous #2 9w

Please do not jump to conclusions no where did I say I want her to receive the death penalty as this was not a malicious murder of children it was under mental health duress. Minimum security prison sentence followed by life in psychiatric care is likely sufficient in my opinion for this extreme circumstance . Of course more research needs to be done so this does NOT happen again

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Anonymous OP 9w

okay, so wtf was your argument in the fucking first place? Were has anything anyone has said was encouraging her to go free? wtf are you even getting at? Insufferable and now backtracking to save your ass.

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Anonymous #2 9w

The groups of people saying to free her

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Anonymous OP 9w

yeah, ON THE FUCKING INTERNET, you should delete your social media, it obviously has skewed your brain and made you a bad actor on your beliefs.

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Anonymous #2 9w

I’m not a bad actor I understand the sides there are just people being overly extreme

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Anonymous OP 9w

You are one of them.

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Anonymous #2 9w

Again when did I say kill😭😭

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Anonymous #2 9w

The people saying to kill her are extremist the people saying to free her are also extremist

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