Anonymous #1 4w

no

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Anonymous #2 4w

Yeah came here to say this. I wished it worked like that but democrats are gonna win with whoever they throw up there bc that’s just how these cycles work, they’re probably not going to be super progressive either

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Anonymous #1 4w

Accelerationists did

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Anonymous #1 4w

The left will either not vote at all or vote third party and the republicans will still win anyways

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 4w

I disagree. 2024 is proof.

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Anonymous #5 4w

I mean many fewer people voted for Harris than Biden

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

Does that mean leftists did make a significant impact?

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Anonymous #5 4w

Leftists didn’t have to make an impact because the centrists shot their own feet by themselves

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

I mean in terms of how leftists casted votes

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

I mean fair, that is a good point about 2024. However I think the degree to which trumps presidency was worse this time around (and how his bad term Immediately precedes the election unlike in 2024 where people had 4 years to put on rosey glasses abt trump term 1) will provide enough cover for the democrats to win with someone like Kamala, especially since trump can’t run again. Could be wrong ofc but that’s the way it’s stacking up for me

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

I think 2024 and 2016 prove that when the Democrats are in power, and refusing to wield that power for positive change, that nobody has any reason to vote for them. However, we can’t ignore 2020 either. When a Republican is in power, royally fucking up everything they touch, not just maintaining a shitty status quo but actively making it worse, Dems tend to achieve big victories.

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Anonymous #5 4w

I mean, it wasn’t just “Leftists” however you define that word, which I think is kind of a meaningless term anyways, but I digress. It’s everyone the Democrats have failed to appeal to because they fail to grasp that every time they try to bring “moderate Republicans” into the big tent, it only shrinks the number of people already under it, and those Republicans never see reason and come to their side. All they do is abandon their base, constantly, and then run on simply not being Republicans.

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Anonymous #5 4w

I begrudgingly voted for Kamala Harris, but really only to vote AGAINST Donald Trump. That’s not enthusiastic support. That’s not getting your base fired up. That’s making me and millions of others resent your party, because instead of appealing to, well, anyone really they just run on the OBLIGATION we feel to stop the Republicans. And most people do not feel that obligation constantly the way someone like me or you might.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

The biggest problem for Democrats electorally is NOT leftists protest voting, it’s regular people who would be on their side if they actually stood for anything simply not voting at all. It’s people who check out of the system entirely because there is no party that represents the people.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Yep. I have literally never in my life liked the democrats (I went from Republican-> libertarian -> anarchist socialist -> communist) so I do not feel this obligation. Many others are the same way.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

I only feel the obligation to stop the Republicans from being in office because of how evil they are, it has nothing to do with the Democrats being good. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again a million more times. If I didn’t live in a swing state, I would not vote Democrat. I only vote for them out of a sense of “fuck man, we really gotta keep the hardline fascist party out of power” and only because I live in one of the few consequential states.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

If I lived in Massachusetts, or California, or Mississippi, or some other state that goes the same way every time and never flips, is not GONNA flip any time soon, then I wouldn’t feel the need to vote strategically against the Republican candidate. I’m moving out of my swing state soon, to a solid blue state, and I’m not gonna vote Democrat when I’m in the new place, because I’m not gonna have to anymore, and they give me no reason to WANT to.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

I live in a swing state (debatably) and I vote third party anyways just because they need to learn somehow and, if anything, swing state voters have the most ability to influence their electoral strategy than ppl in CA or MA or what have you

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 4w

that’s why they lost in 2024? if they nominate another spineless AIPAC demon, they’re going to lose because people won’t show up.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 4w

That’s fair, it’s like a cycle, but I think the same rationale will probably provide diminishing returns for democrats over time.

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Anonymous #3 4w

What is so incomprehensible? What can you not understand?

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Anonymous #7 4w

Yeah bernie sanders what more could you ask for? Maybe a half a dozen people more like him and less like Elizabe Warren and AOC. And before anyone says Elizabeth Warren is just the female Bernie Sanders no she’s not. She doesn’t like the second amendment or guns. They are not the same and she is annoying.

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Anonymous #9 4w

theres no foundation for beliefs to logically stem from, nothing is connected. this entire test is just comical examination of incomprehensible shit. im not going to speak specifics about "what is so incomprehensible" or what i cant understand about median voter politics because that would be making a monolith out of a zoo. people are different.

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Anonymous #9 4w

The rest of the democrats in congress are more center/ center left democrats. I don’t know why you would cater to the leftists when they don’t succeed in these elections

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Anonymous #7 4w

It’s extremely disingenuous to suggest that Democratic Party leadership doesn’t do everything in their power to ratfuck progressives. We all saw how people like Chuck Schumer reacted when a progressive was the nominee for NYC mayor, and the neoliberal was the 3rd party spoiler candidate. “Vote blue no matter who” wasn’t in effect when the blue guy was a progressive running against a neolib moderate, now was it?

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Anonymous #3 4w

I think generally people just like to fit in with those around them

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Anonymous #3 4w

10/10 points and such a good image to illustrate

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

This

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

Sure but unfortunately I think it’ll keep working as long as republicans keep lowering the bar every 4-8 years. But who knows, maybe a post trump Republican Party will become functional to the point where democrats need to offer actually compelling progressive policies to win, which would be great for the country

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Anonymous #7 4w

I’m interested in gun rights and campaign finance reform and obviously access to things like healthcare and abortion but first and foremost guns

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

“They need to learn somehow” wdym by that?

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Anonymous #5 4w

Yeahhh I mean not to harp or anything but what’s the argument for voting for someone who has no real momentum behind them or chance to win? Especially in a swing state? Is it that you believe potentially losing to a Republican candidate is worth it for possibly letting democrats know that they’re headed in the wrong direction according to people like you? (And to be fair, like myself, despite my different strategy here)

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

^meant to address that to you my b

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Anonymous #8 4w

My b totally missed this. I mean Kamala was a bad candidate for a lot of reasons but I think what I mentioned was a lot of it. I’d love to see a world where people have some method of refusing to vote that results in the Democratic Party becoming progressive but I just don’t think it works that way. People know a centrist democrat is better than a far right Republican and that dynamic does turn people out to vote

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Chuck Schumer probably should have endorsed Mamdami, but he did not do “everything in his power” to go against him. He refused to endorse a democratic socialist. He didn’t endorse cuomo.

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Anonymous #7 4w

Because our policies are what people want. The DNC is run by 70+ year old zionist conservatives. The party is also sitting around 13% favorability even though their opponents are one of the least popular presidency ever. Our country has serious problems, people want solutions. Conservative dems have no solutions other than “let’s cut taxes about it” “let’s do some byzantine means tested programs” “let’s compromise with the literal fascists in the GOP”

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Anonymous #8 4w

If the policies are what people want than why aren’t there more lefties?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 4w

I’m just a hater. That’s why.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 4w

I mean real shit ig, hating for love of the game. I wish I could stomach doing so myself but unfortunately I’m tied to my harm reduction mindset which has me voting for democrats I hate 😔 no great options out here

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Anonymous #7 4w

This is the age old question, and I personally think it’s because they’re awful at messaging. According to my parents this has been a decades-long issue too 😭

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Anonymous #7 4w

2 party system causing people to polarize on issues is my guess

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