Anonymous #1 16h

Yes Finally An actual counterargument What is a right wing policy that you believe is violent? I generally agree the definition of violence is someone doing direct physical harm to another person

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 16h

I mean I consider capitalism to be violent in itself so I may not be the person you want to ask

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Anonymous #2 16h

Some republicans and some democrats opposed segregation in the 1970s Not sure any historian would make the argument it was only one party Decent attempt at a gotcha

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 16h

Homicide rates are at their lowest levels since the 1950s? Do you know why?

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 16h

Right wingers opposed desegregation. Thats different than democrat vs republican at that time.

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 15h

do you recognize that the state can be violent towards its citizens and others? or are you attempting to dismiss that by fixating on individuals?

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 14h

The murders of Renee Good and Alex Pretti were the direct result of right-wing policy. They pushed millions of untrained lunatics with guns into Minneapolis and let them have free reign. All of Trump’s immigrant concentration camps are violent.

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Anonymous #2 11h

I did incorrectly conflate parties and ideology there, my bad

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Anonymous #3 11h

What is your theory

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Anonymous #3 11h

What democrat policy reduces homicides?

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Anonymous #4 11h

Policy preferences/Political platform Not necessarily the Republican Party as an organization, I made the same mistake of conflating party/ideology

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Anonymous #1 11h

Yeah im just not sure I find or see evidence of any people who are serious players in economic research or economic theory that believe this. History/English/Humanities/liberal studies professors trying to reach outside their depth or leftist activists not acknowledging the possibility of outside opinions doesn’t quite do it in the academic community or the national political conversation.

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 11h

Violence intervention and reinvestment that’s what’s happening at the moment the homicide decline is real you can look it up on Google yourself

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Anonymous #5 11h

I see what you mean My definition refers to individuals but it is not necessarily restricted to individuals, if that makes sense. A police officer forcibly arresting someone is both an individual commiting violence and an agent of the state commiting violence, and an agent of the state commiting violence should be held to much higher standard

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Anonymous #3 11h

lol I am aware the homicide rate is rapidly falling It’s been falling for 30 years, roughly ever since the 1994 crime bill went into effect Can you explain how those policies that sound like great buzzwords actually reduce homicides? I’m not sure those policies are really implemented in a way consistent enough to determine a causal relationship with lowering homicides.

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 11h

Because in violence intervention you use former gang members who know the groove to intervene in conflicts before they become deadly and this stops one shooting and that then in turn stops the other retaliatory shooting and so on and so and that reduces the homicide rate and you interrupt a escalating conflict before it becomes a shooting

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Anonymous #6 11h

There are definitely people employed by ICE who have no business being federal officers or who look clearly unprepared for what their job entails. That certainly increases the risk of unjustified or avoidable violence occurring. This is a real position. What definition of concentration camp are you using? If you wish for detained immigrants to receive better treatment or services, you should support increased funding for ICE and Border Patrol.

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Anonymous #3 11h

I would love to see some documentation of this happening, and how it caused homicide rates to start falling 30 years ago Is there any research supporting this position? Again I’m not sure I see how in the world you are making a serious causal argument about this policy being responsible for the universal reduction in homicides across all cities, demographics, and districts in the country

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