Anonymous #2 6d

That's about as merciful of a God as you could ask for and you still ask for more

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Anonymous #2 6d

Ok and that doesn’t change the fact of anything I said

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Anonymous OP 6d

Have you never sinned?

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Anonymous #2 6d

Obviously I have. I don’t think you get what I’m saying.

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Anonymous OP 6d

If I was god I would not base peoples eternal suffering on if they believed in me

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Anonymous OP 6d

No I do, it's an incredibly prideful thing to say too. You are basically saying that you are a better judge of character than God.

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Anonymous #2 6d

And you and god are saying someone’s character is based on if they are a Christian.

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Anonymous OP 6d

If that were true too, you wouldn't have ever sinned

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Anonymous #2 6d

That makes no sense

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Anonymous OP 6d

How can you claim to be a better judge of character than God as an inherently flawed and sinful creation of God?

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Anonymous OP 6d

If you were a better judge of character, that would naturally apply to your own decision making processes

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Anonymous OP 6d

Therefore you would not have ever sinned

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Anonymous #2 6d

I know you fully believe you are speaking rationally and this all makes sense to you, but I grew up with this and for lack of kinder words it all just started to sound like culty evil nonsense under the guise of righteousness where what you’re saying only sounds smart to people who are in it. That sounds mush harsher than I mean to be but that’s all I can think of phrasing wise. I don’t want to shame someone for their own belief.

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Anonymous OP 6d

that's not how He judges us

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Make sure to tell him that when you get to the pearly gates

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Anonymous #2 6d

What/who told you God was a good judge of character when he reportedly sends souls to hell for simply non-belief in people who never got introduced or had the chance to believe in God? Like on who or what objective and credible authority are we claiming that God is a good judge of character and omnibenevolent?

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Anonymous #6 6d

I doubt God would send a truly righteous person that wanted to enter his kingdom to hell for eternity simply for questioning his own beliefs

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Anonymous #6 6d

This belief of hell being eternal fire or whatever is taken out of context. Hell is the separation from God, if you don't believe in God at all or do not want to enter his kingdom he isn't going to force you to enter it because he is just. Jesus basically claims that being separated from God for eternity (aka being in hell) will feel similar to burning alive

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Anonymous #6 6d

Punishing someone to eternal suffering for finite crime you would say is immoral, no? If God is a good judge of character as you say, what purpose does he have of allowing our souls to potentially cause evil and destruction of his creation, specifically other well-meaning humans, if he already knows if that evil-doer is evil? Why allow evil on such a scale and expect full belief from your subjects, many of whom don’t know you exist yet you have the power to show them?

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Anonymous #6 6d

Someone who chooses to be separated from God for eternity when the only thing you have to do to be accepted into his Kingdom is accept him into your heart, deserves to be separate from him.

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Anonymous #2 6d

Now THAT is the mindset that I hate with a passion.

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Anonymous #2 6d

I never said hell was fire or whatever, but besides that if you’re gonna say “I doubt God” in any capacity after having argued that we (more specifically, another commenter here) are not better judges of character than God? Who are you to doubt God’s intentions here? How would you know to doubt? If your position there is hypothetical, then isn’t the faith’s practices in order to be righteous sorta arbitrary with how worship and teachings have shifted into different denominations?

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Anonymous #2 6d

My point was that some people haven’t chosen, and by your logic would be separated from Him. Some people straight up will not know about the Christian God, and historically have not. Thousands and millions of humans across history never had the chance to know Him as the church or its denominations have preached about, and yet because they never accepted the Kingdom into their hearts, your soul is damned??

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Anonymous #6 6d

I am but a man to doubt God's intentions, obviously I am not saying my word is final, speaks for him, or is above any other opinion. That is the problem with pride, not that you may have your own opinion, but that you think your opinion holds more value than God's.

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Anonymous #6 6d

If you have not chosen to believe in God but you are questioning it and you are righteous, that is when purgatory comes into play.

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Anonymous #6 6d

God also allows people who do not know about Christianity to repent

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Anonymous #2 6d

I’ve been raised and have researched that purgatory is for those who didn’t know about God, not those who are doubt him or aka don’t actually believe

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Anonymous OP 6d

I know atheism is not the same thing as being agnostic but in the end as an agnostic both don’t believe, agnostics just don’t count out the possibility

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