Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

Oh I’ll engage in something fr

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Anonymous #3 2w

THIS. theres a house on my campus that was owned by a confederate general. you can see the slave quarters in the back. they havent taken it off the campus tour. like i wont lie its a beautiful old house. but uh? why are we spending 10 minutes talking ab the architecture when if u round the corner u can SEE the old wooden structures? like be so fr. if i was a man and could piss directly on it i would

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

i dont. ppl of that mindset are fueled by hate in their ideology and nothing else regardless of how much evidence you present. they argue to reinforce their ideals of evb else attacking them, not to learn. i prefer not to waste my breath in that way.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I mean the confederacy is definitely a part of our history, but it should be treated as a negative force instead of whatever these “lost cause” weirdos see it as

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Anonymous OP 2w

So in the case of ur campus, I would have that tour mention a LOT more than just the architecture

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Anonymous #3 2w

exactly. mind you, ut austin HAS a widely accessible virtual tour acknowledging the confederacy and jim crow/ civil rights monuments here. if someone wants to know, its available. but putting it on a campus tour and only talking about the architecture? grossssss

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Anonymous OP 2w

AND MIND YOU. its just a house. nothing ever happens there. its not a campus building. they just show it bc they want to

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Anonymous OP 2w

Yeah, that’s not good. I mean if they MUST tour that house, they can tour the civil rights monuments as well. And give proper context to both

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Anonymous OP 2w

Why would they even waste time on a tour showing that 😂 that time can be spent talking about student life/academics I’d think

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Anonymous #3 2w

its almost insulting bc they thought it was a tough move to put it across the street from our barbara jordan statue, who was the first black woman elected to our senate but it feels kindaaaa

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Anonymous #3 2w

AND its right across the street from the african studies building, where artwork and lots of artifacts are displayed. like that seems pointed and they dont everrr mention that

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

it’s hard to engage with others who genuinely see u as below them and worthy of death for existing tho. i’ve done it sure but idk how productive it is to.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I understand, why would they not tour the barbara jordan statue too?

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Anonymous OP 2w

Alright that seems like them mis-prioritizing things to me lol

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Anonymous #6 2w

thats my sentiment. im black. in austin texas. and im a history and gvt double major. i have to sit and listen to ts daily. and its infuriating. i stfu during thise seminars and let the other folks do it, im not dignifying that perspective by debating it.

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Anonymous #3 2w

its “and this is barbara jordan our first black woman texas senator. now if you look to ur left and see this beautiful home…” super wack

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Anonymous OP 2w

Oh that seems very wack to me too

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Anonymous #6 2w

That’s reasonable. You shouldn’t be putting yourself in harms way. My point is that you must engage with them in order to better know their arguments so that others don’t fall into their ideological traps. A good example I feel is the anti-trans rhetoric we’ve been seeing. You can’t ignore people like Joe Rogan or dipshits like him. Your goal is to sway others, not them.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

oh i get that. but nah thats not the arguments being had around here fr. it sucks bc like ut austin is pretty selective. everyone is smart in their own ways but many people are stuck in those ways. which is why a bar a block away from campus hosted a pro israel event with israeli flag banners and such just last week and ppl were more pissed that we were pissed they did that then at the bar for allowing it.

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Anonymous OP 2w

like we have top notch profs, with educational and anecdotal experience. they dont wanna hear it. it goes to ad hominems always. so in my environment at least, its not like theres a lack of exposure or reading available. ppl are just convinced they know everything and dont care to hear a damn thing else. the slogan is ‘keep austin weird’ but its become ‘keep austin centrist’. bunch of yuppies and cosplayers this way

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Anonymous OP 2w

It’s definitely not easy, even from an argumentative standpoint. Persuasion usually feels more like a vibes thing than a factual thing anymore. Being right isn’t as appealing as being hot or cool sometimes 🤷‍♂️ With the Israeli stuff, you essentially have to hear the arguments, even if it’s just in an online format. Unless you’re protesting or something, don’t go into a group of people who wish to see you dead 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous OP 2w

From a philosophical perspective, Rawls, John Stuart Mill, and Rousseau all had trouble figuring out “the fanatic”. I don’t know if those people fit into that, but it’s essentially “what do we do with intolerant or extremist actors in society?” I don’t think you’re wrong for not engaging. I would engage myself personally but again, those guys spent their entire lives trying to figure the problem out and got nowhere.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 2w

lmao dont bring up rousseauuuu ive had to read so much and was so frustrated w his writing by the end of the social contract and the origin or inequality. but i get what u mean. i just cant and wont do it. its important to educate ppl who maybe are in the pipeline but not all the way through, but the folks on the other end? nah. especially in texas? sb else will deal w them in due time

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