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Our healthcare system pays for everyone else’s unfortunately. Not really a defense of high healthcare costs but the Nordic models and the U.K. models would be useless if it wasn’t for our innovations in medical R&D. We drive about half the R&D GLOBALLY.
Democrats need to understand that you can’t just throw money into a broken system and expect it to be better. We spend more money on healthcare per capita than any other nation yet we are 34th in life expectancy, near the bottom of the barrel for OECD.
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Anonymous 3w

You are right, but that’s not the full story. Much of the reason why healthcare spending is so high in the US is because of insurance premiums and prescription drug prices.

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Anonymous 3w

Most of that R&D isn’t done directly by pharmaceutical companies though, it’s done by research universities who then sell the patent to the highest bidder, which is where the pharma companies come in. It’s not 1954, a Pfizer laboratory worker did not just discover penicillin. The era of pharmaceutical companies paying for their own R&D is over now that there’s an established oligopoly, and nobody needs to create anything themselves to get a foothold anymore.

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Anonymous 3w

there is so much fucked up here idek how to respond 😭😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

genuinely ONLY you would come on here on some pro-big pharma shit

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Pharma pays like 130-140 billion in R&D. Universities pay like 20-40. That’s a demonstrably false statement because they do fund their own internal research labs. You’re also ignoring the costs of clinical trials.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

I’m not pro-big pharma, you stupid ass. I’m just not some USSR flag waving shithead who thinks we can just nationalize everything because of “muh empathy”. Assholes like you still give ideas like a fucking 5th grader and think you’re clever. You’re not. You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. Your parents still cover your insurance.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

Prescription drug prices are how companies pay for their R&D. The old common saying is the first pill is the one that costs a few billion, not the 2nd or 3rd.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Tell you what, asshole. You go run for office on Medicare For All and tell people the truth. Tell them you’ll need to institute a national VAT, you’re going to tax their incomes even more, and you’re taxing payroll even more. Let’s see if you get into office.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

Again, I’m not going to say the system isn’t a mess because it definitely is. It being a mess though doesn’t mean changing “Medicare For All” and thinking that’s good enough. National healthcare is incredibly complex and the highest cost this country faces even today. The military’s budget is maybe $800-$900 billion a year? Our healthcare is $4.5 trillion a year.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Do your best and make sure to use your words unlike #1 who seems to have lost their way after trying to get cute.

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