US Politics on Sidechat | Y’all actually wanna have a civil debate with a conservative you gotta go somewhere else(another group). This place is uninhabitable for people on the right that actually want to have a normal conversation.

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Y’all actually wanna have a civil debate with a conservative you gotta go somewhere else(another group). This place is uninhabitable for people on the right that actually want to have a normal conversation.

Anonymous 2w

Go back to r/conservative where you can have your safe space moderated by Russians who post from the same 4 accounts and delete anything critical of Trump. This is the real world where stupid opinions get you put on blast

Anonymous 2w

I know y’all are gonna say “well if they actually made valid arguments we could have a civil conversation”, or whatever but I don’t know what to tell you. I’ve had a lot of really good back-and-forth debates where conservatives make good points and none of them occurred here.

Anonymous 2w

There are no normal conservatives left

Anonymous 2w

For all yall downvoting my post about me saying I post left wing stuff

Anonymous

OP 2w

Like what?

Anonymous

#3 2w

I’m not a conservative buddy

Anonymous

OP 2w

Mkay, let me guess you’re a “libertarian.”

Anonymous

OP 2w

Side note, if they still support this shit at this point I don’t want to be civil. They sure as hell aren’t so why sugarcoat it?

Anonymous

#3 2w

I can literally screenshot every post I’ve made in this chat. They’re all left wing

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Anonymous

OP 2w

Then you’re complacent. You cannot be reasonable with people who support tearing down the foundation of the country, and anyone left supporting trump is doing exactly that.

Anonymous

#3 2w

Right wingers on a spectrum just like left-wingers a lot of right wingers don’t agree with a lot of other right wingers and a lot of left-wingers don’t agree with a lot of other left wingers. There is a lot of conservatives up out there that are unhappy with like the ice shit and so on. Never said you’re gonna have a reasonable conversation on every topic.

Anonymous

#3 2w

There’s no complacency here at all.

Anonymous

OP 2w

This isn’t right wing and left wing. There is the left half yes, then there’s actual conservatives and then there’s maga about half a mile beyond that. You can have a conversation with a conservative, not a magat. They hide under the name conservative but they’re far from that. Maga breaks the spectrum because it is blind allegiance. There isn’t a spectrum there. Look at any major conservative forum and tell me what happens to people critical of trump.

Anonymous

OP 2w

Complacency is giving them the time of day. Acknowledging their lives have value. They are going to destroy the country. They’ve ruined our reputation, they’ve spread fear among the people. They’re attacking the people. They can drop dead for all I care and I pray they do.

Anonymous

OP 2w

Every conservative I know who is unhappy with how shits going down right also didn’t vote for him November 2024

Anonymous

#2 2w

Those are actual conservatives and nobody gives them shit, small government, 2a, supporting small business/ag, hell yeah. But that’s not who we’re talking about.

Anonymous

#3 2w

no those people are actually evil too… because they have 99% of the same values as MAGA, they just dislike his lack of decorum and his scandals. they’re totally cool with fascism and autocracy and discrimination because none of these things were born with Trump. Trump is a symptom of the progression of the GOP over the last 50-60 years.

Anonymous

OP 2w

There are no good points that they can make. Their ideological is just fundamentally objectively wrong. Conservative social policy can only be argued based on religion (so on magical thinking), while conservative economic policy literally just makes life worse for everyone except the 1% and without fail in the 21st century has made the economy overall worse (because get this, bad things happening to most of the population fiscally, is bad for the economy because they stop spending money)

Anonymous

#3 2w

No totally not. Because they aren’t impressed either

Anonymous

#3 2w

You’re going down a semantics rabbit hole at this point

Anonymous

#5 2w

Agree to disagree. I’m pretty left wing but they can objectively make good points

Anonymous

OP 2w

It’s not semantics… you’re just as bad as them. “Libertarian”

Anonymous

OP 2w

For someone who “posts left wing stuff” you sure love to get on your knees for Maga

Anonymous

#3 2w

😒

Anonymous

#3 2w

What a weird way to interpret what I’ve said

Anonymous

OP 2w

their entire ideology is factually incorrect. their social views are based on mythology from 3000 years ago, while their economic views have caused major economic problems every time. please share what points they make.

Anonymous

#5 2w

I’m not an atheist so social views based on mythology from 3000 years ago for starters

Anonymous

OP 2w

I mean those views are pretty much barbaric, there’s no way about it. If you rape a woman you just have to pay 50 silver coins and you get to marry her? It is objectively true that these ideas come from such a different time that they are not really compatible with modern society or civilization. Hence why nobody follows them.

Anonymous

#5 2w

I agree there’s no good arguments for conservatism but let’s not forget the secular version doesn’t exist. Like weird technofascist guys. They are also dumb and wrong tho.

Anonymous

#6 2w

This is true; though they mostly just subscribe to the same moral and social views and sort of hand wave why (because they’re ostensibly secular but still have an ideology rooted in mosaic law)