To some extent the species based prioritization is definitely warranted, we are the greatest thing that’s ever come from this planet. We definitely have to squash our fascination with profits, unfortunately it really is the only thing holding us back at the moment

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Anonymous OP 30w

how are we the greatest thing that’s ever come from this planet when we’re basically just destroying it for funsies? 🤷🏼‍♀️ but i understood your Helldivers reference tho lmao

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So you reason as to why humanity cant be the greatest most advanced thing the planet has ever produced, is that its so advanced in its capabilities that it could destroy (or not destroy) the earth?

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Anonymous #2 30w

How aren’t we, what other species would come close? Helldivers is fun, same with halo

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The ability to wipe life from existence planet wide is quite literally a reflection on how advanced a species is, there has never been a species that could come close “We by far are the most parasitic mammals on the planet” isn’t even a real scientific claim

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“Sure we may have outpaced them in the evolutionary sense and garnered more knowledge but we also hurt the environment”

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Before I read that paper, have you actually read it or did you find the first thing that looked like it supported your viewpoint

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Just for shits and giggles, what is the most advanced species in your opinion. Since it clearly isn’t humans

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Anonymous OP 30w

buddy, the best organism to ever happen to this planet is cyanobacteria. they’re the reason the sky is blue and saturated with oxygen… they basically caused the Cambrian Explosion, which created us. they’re pretty neat! i studied freshwater biology and literally everything freshwater.

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Anonymous #2 30w

Nahhh that cant be true because they caused the Great Oxidation Event, which by #1’s logic puts them out of the running

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Its the same logic, but I agree that the logic is cope

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Anonymous OP 30w

But it is interesting that the conversation had to steer away from “ most advanced” to “best”

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The paper you referenced didn’t definitively say either way, it also is just a philosophical ecology essay written by a fisheries scientist

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“A species so blindly consumptive it accidentally caused a mass extinction through its own waste” Am I talking about cyanobacteria or humanity? You’re giving a single celled organism with no brain credit for something its not capable of conceiving

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Anonymous OP 30w

Why can’t I give them credit if it wasn’t sentient? It still happened. We are consciously aware of our own destruction of our planet and singlehandedly destroying and permanently extinguishing ecosystems on our planet for the sake of “transport” or “industry” whatever. We are aware of carrying capacity and don’t give a fuck. Cyanobacteria still exists, many causing harmful algal blooms and causing aquatic die-offs, and some of the species are toxic too. I love algae in general tbh.

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