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Daily reminder that many statistics on AI water usage are based on a figure that was off by a factor of 4500

Empire of AI is wildly misleading on AI water use

blog.andymasley.com

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Anonymous 2d

It’s also not like the AI consumes the water. It goes back into lakes and oceans, just hotter (which has its own problems).

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

I think some mfs actually think AI just drinks water and makes it disappear 💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Don’t forget full of contaminants and metals that makes the lakes and streams completely inhospitable to life

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

This is the first I’ve heard about metals. Can you explain?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

You’ll get trace amounts of copper and zinc leaking into the water stream via erosion of the cooling pipes and equipment.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

That doesn’t sound specific to AI at all

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

AI runs off data centers, same as any other internet infrastructure. The thing about AI data centers specifically is they’re built on a much larger scale than previously seen and do use a much larger amount of water as well

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

It’s not, also happens with power plants and other data centers like #2 said.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

That sounds like something that would happen from any consumption of water, or whenever rain flows through man-made drainage

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

The metals part to an extent, but power plants and data centers also cycle through a lot of heat which can disrupt the ecosystem. They also put chlorine and phosphorus in cooling water to kill algae and bacteria, and prevent corrosion.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

But yeah, most of those chemicals (and worse) still enter through drainage, not really sewage though. The biggest concern is the heat imo.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

No, cloud artificial intelligence runs off data centers primarily, not “ai” itself. there is a flourishing open-source community dedicated to expanding on consumer-available local models (aka you install and run it on your own device) Additionally, if we’re worried about water consumption and availability of fresh water, we should be discussing the water requirements of maintaining our meat industry, as well as the common exploitation companies like Nestle engage in towards entire towns

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2d

However, cloud based ai is absolutely terrible given the vocal goals of the owners of these companies. To my extreme surprise, Anthropic is the ONLY us-based ai company that attempted to fight against the pentagon weaponizing its model, the other companies willfully gave access with glee. (and this is the company owned by that bezos scumbag, which is why I was so surprised tbh I was expecting them all to abide by the pentagon without pushback)

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2d

Localized AI = good and important, cloud-based AI is devastatingly dangerous given its increased capabilities and the malicious intentions of the technofascists owning the companies

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