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americans spend $5.3 trillion a year on healthcare and not every american even gets healthcare. if everyone can can get healthcare and it only costs $4 trillion a year, why is that even a question man?
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Anonymous 11w

Because republicans would rather pay more to make sure people they don't like don't get healthcare

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Anonymous 11w

You’re comparing the number that combines private and public spending to an estimate of how much public spending would be in a healthcare system that still requires significant private spending (the only estimates that low make that assumption) Which specific estimate are you using? They invariably make many problematic assumptions.

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Anonymous 11w

“only” costs $4 trillion every year 😭😭

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Anonymous 11w

Americans spend 5.3 trillion, Americans get about 5.3 billion

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Anonymous 11w

Not everyone deserves healthcare

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

Are you like some Disney Pixar villain

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

Nope, I don’t watch that shit

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

i think you, someone who is clearly a hateful person, deserves healthcare brother. you shouldn’t be sentenced to death because you can’t afford to buy a healthcare ceo another house

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11w

Well yea, I work for healthcare. Not everybody does

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

Is 4 trillion less than 5.3 trillion?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 11w

i believe OP is implying that the government should just dump 4 trillion a year into blind universal healthcare which is 1. impossible because that’s over 80% of ALL tax revenue the government makes annually, and 2. stupid because even if we didn’t have to pay for healthcare many would die due to long waiting times and poor care quality which is a whole other economics thing. there’s a reason so many countries fly critical patients into america for treatment and not like the UK or smth

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

hey if you suddenly got a horrible bout of tuberculosis, how much of that could your insurance cover? just a thought exercise, yknow? (yes, extreme example but it’s very possible—tb requires a multi-month course of antibiotics, along with doctor visits and lab monitoring)

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 11w

Bro is one accident or bad diagnosis away from being replaced permanently and living on early Medicare 🥀

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 11w

we all are! disability is a specter that looms over us all, because good eating and exercise will not make you immune to Permanent And Worsening Health Conditions. regular health checkups and affordable care help mitigate contributing factors (if you are in better health, some of the things that become Very Bad take longer to or are less likely to)

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

Americans have been leaving the US and getting treatment elsewhere because it is cheaper for them to fly to a different country and get medical treatment then getting it in their own country😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

Republicans try not to say evil shit challenge *impossible*

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

We get $5.3 trillion in American healthcare, which is shit due to profit-seeking on the part of conglomerates, especially drug manufacturers and insurance companies. If we were to institute laws capping profit margins on pharmaceuticals and insurance companies, costs would drop by half easily overnight. We also have a shot ton of bloat administrative jobs based on the fat created by this profit seeking, so quite a few people would be out of work for a bit. But long-term it would work better

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

That‘s the same thing Brian Thompson believed. Look what happened to him…. Health care is a human right because it allows people to live. If you don’t believe that… well… I‘m not going to be surprised if someone comes for your kneecaps in the near future. Because if no one deserves health care, then no one deserves good health. And in that case, neither do you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 10w

i’m implying that the average american pays more for healthcare now because health insurance operates for profit than we would under a universal system even if your taxes go up. also your claim that if everyone had healthcare, care would be lower quality and we’d have death sentence wait times is just made up. but i’ll pretend it’s not

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

want to solve that issue health insurance execs feed you? invest in education, hospitals and maybe don’t be so xenophobic about foreign med students and doctors and maybe encourage that 3 simple solutions to the whole “oh well we’ll have wait in line” stupid ass argument as if waiting in line is somehow worse than being too poor to even have access to the line lol

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

there is literally an entire chapter in my economics textbook about the downsides to universal healthcare 🫩

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