Anonymous #1 4w

A gun is a weapon. A car is a mode of transportation. If your car is pointed away from an officer it is not being used with the intent if violence. If someone was shot for having a closed pocket knife in their pocket that should absolutely be prosecuted

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Anonymous OP 4w

And plenty of people have been brutalized or killed by cops for having legal conceal carry during traffic stops. People literally already protest over that

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Anonymous OP 4w

A car, as much as it is a method of transportation, is also a deadly weapon.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I don't think she deserved it either, there are very few people who truly deserve to be shot by the police, but you have to recognize that her death is a result of her own choice to be in such a high tension scenario with a deadly weapon as much as it a result of the cops actions to use deadly force.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Her own choice to… be in a car. The primary method of transportation in the country. Dude if just existing in a car is enough to be considered dangerous and be shot then we all are fucked.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Not all of us who drive in cars aim them at police officers and press on the gas pedal?

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Anonymous #1 4w

Your first reply is made with the premise of the “weapon” being pointed away from the officer. You can’t make the argument that “well we wouldn’t be on their side if the knife was away from the officer” and then switch to “well the car was aimed at the officer actually” when it falls flat

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Anonymous OP 4w

I'm not even saying what she did was wrong from her perspective, a lot of people could have made that mistake. I can also see how the cop who had 23 stitches from being ran over during a previous arrest might think something other than a mistake is occurring when having a car driven right at him.

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Anonymous OP 4w

To turn away from something, you first have to be pointing towards it

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Anonymous #1 4w

It is standard policy that law enforcement does not shoot at moving vehicles. If he was so traumatized he should not have been in the field. There are records of immigration enforcement agents putting themselves in front of vehicles to justify deadly force.

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Anonymous #1 4w

If the gun was pointed away from you you wouldn’t get shot are you stupid

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Anonymous OP 4w

It’s also standard policy not to walk directly in front of cars

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Anonymous #2 4w

What if I was still in the process of turning the gun away when the police shot me?

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Anonymous #1 4w

The wheels were already turned full away from the officer this is not a comparable situation dude

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Anonymous OP 4w

It is standard policy not to shoot at moving vehicles to disable them yes, but in a split second decision where I think someone is trying to run over me, I'm not going to review case law to determine whether or not to make a shot.

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Anonymous #1 4w

He actively attempted to put himself in front of the vehicle. When they finally do something deplorable enough for you to disagree with, the boot that’s in your will be smashing your teeth into the curb.

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Anonymous #1 4w

This argument is honestly ridiculous. It’s trying to take away any responsibility from the officer by saying “he was just really scared and incompetent.” That doesn’t justify what he did or any of the actions taken afterwards. It was a CAR. People DRIVE in cars. an officer doesn’t become a victim after intentionally walking in front of one and then killing someone

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Anonymous OP 4w

People shoot at rocks with guns, you can't pretend like something isn't dangerous just because it has other uses than to be dangerous

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Anonymous OP 4w

If you seriously would just let it happen and think thats what the officer should've done, wanna sign up for an obstacle in a rally race this summer? I promise I'll only bump ya

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Anonymous #1 4w

Dude you’re working so hard to justify the idea that cops can just shoot people for the danger of being in a vehicle. Traffic stops look crazy in your world

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Anonymous OP 4w

In all honesty if you can't handle keeping your foot on the brake during a stop I don't really think you should be driving anyways

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Anonymous OP 4w

I still think it was wrong for her to be shot, but looking at it from only her perspective is a disingenuous view of the situation

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Anonymous #1 4w

Why would the ice agent with 23 stitches be cleared to return to the field so soon

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Anonymous #1 4w

The goal post is in another zip code.

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