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12 upvotes, 29 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in US Politics. "Bro lost in the sauce."

_orangutan

the U.S. is and always has been worse than nazi Germany
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Anonymous 12w

Nazi Germany lasted for less than a 10th of the time the United States colonial project has operated. It was its direct inspiration. The US through NATO directly continued the policies and practices of Nazi Germany, and again really can’t overstate. This America is right now a fascist country led by a white supremacist Nazi party, with Germany still subordinated to it. Do you have any idea how many people the US killed in Korea? Do you have any idea what happened to the Mexicans?

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Anonymous 12w

y’all are just historically illiterate. two slave states that conducted numerous genocides, one of them almost completely successful eradicating the indigenous peoples living on the lands it now occupies

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 12w

the sole reason “israel” is able to continue its holocaust against Palestinians is because of Amerikkkan supplied weapons. y’all are just intentionally blind

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 12w

Holy schizo Batman, The Holocaust was a genocide unlike those that came prior. Industrialized and developed upon those that preceded it. Yeah we did genocide natives, have chattel slavery, and Jim Crow. But Nazi Germany was a whole different beast altogether fam, you have to realize the scale and speed at which they did their shit was made from pure hatred. Not to mention the progress the U.S. has made to make amends and progress on these grounds. Ya know, civil war, anti-war protests, ect.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Germany gave reparations for what they did, half the US won’t even acknowledge the long term ramifications of the racism and more than half refuse to even address how to fix these ramifications. In terms of progress, Germany has made bigger leaps between Nazi Germany then and Germany now than the US has in centuries.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

We’re talking about Nazi Germany specifically , not Germany as a whole though. Literally thousands of programs founded to help with discrimination both federally, state, and locally.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

So are you comparing Nazi germany to slave America or Nazi germany to America today?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

*in western Germany. East Germany never got the memo, which is part of the reason that AFD support is so high there.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

It doesn’t matter. Regardless whether you think Nazi Germany or America is worse depends on who you are. An enslaved person who just saw a white man take an enslaved baby and use them as bait to hunt alligators will see America as worse however an interment camp prisoner would say Germany. Personally I’d say America because America as a whole throughout its history has done many heinous atrocities.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

No shit, a Jewish person seeing their baby bayoneted by an SS officer would do the same shit. The fact that Nazi Germany did so much in a short amount of time shows it is worse. America as a whole, as the OOP seems to do, but if you want to do the whole of Germany there’s a lot there too. Comparisons don’t get far, but Nazi Germany is by far the worst nation to have existed in contemporary history.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Like I said it depends on who you ask. Someone experiencing either would say the one they experienced is worse.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 12w

this is hilarious because West Germany famously did not denazify, and most of the leading nazi officials found themselves in West German and NATO offices. the AFD has surged in popularity because post-reunification, the west deliberately de-industrialized the east, and many people lost their jobs alongside state pensions, etc. it was the collapse of the socialist state which paved the way for a fascists revival

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 12w

and notably, the Amerikkkans imported and pardoned many Nazis for their crimes. why? because the Amerikkkan state was also guilty of them

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

and “holy schizo batman” just say you’re white and that you benefit from the settler colony’s distorted historical narrative. the U.S. was the template for the Nazis and several other white supremacist projects. it is the arguable birthplace of white supremacy

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 12w

the concentration camps turned death camps weren’t even unique to the Nazis. Amerikkkan settlers placed indigenous nations under custody in emigration depots where many of them succumbed to the biological war waged by white settlers. the U.S. deliberately withheld smallpox vaccines from indigenous nations well into the 1940s. it was sterilizing indigenous women well into the 1960s

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 12w

indigenous children were placed in boarding schools where their languages and customs were beaten out of them. today most of the indigenous nations are extinct, and you idiots are talking about how the Amerikkkan haunting isn’t the worst manifestation of white supremacy on this planet. useless idiots

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 12w

I do agree that west Germany did not denazify to a truly meaningful extent. They paid reparations and had some governmental reforms (notably decades later and not immediately after the war), but also had a massive amount of undeserved pardons (Nuremberg did not go far enough) and ofc operation paperclip happened. I’m not denying that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 12w

What I am saying is that, however pathetic denazification efforts were in the west, they were almost non-existent in the east. The soviets essentially propped up the same power structures, and in many cases the same people who had years prior been ardent Nazis. The only exception being the decade-long slave labor programs the soviets essentially utilized as reparations to rebuild some of their cities (considering that the workers were Nazis though, I don’t think it was unjustified in this case)

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 12w

They most certainly were unique to Germany. The fact you even consider comparing the two is crazy. Vaccines is true, though partially after the IVA of 1832 (Andrew is an Ass in its use). Primarily due to the status of the tribes and their relation to the U.S. government, an unfortunate occurrence. In most instances it was due to medical neglect that blankets were given out, rather than intentional killing and biological warfare. American Assimilation programs were blatantly evil, yes.

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Anonymous replying to -> alphanerd 12w

Buzzword joyride.

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Anonymous replying to -> alphanerd 12w

Like there’s not a comfortable way to prove that Nazi Germany was worse than the US because it’s not. It’s just a truism that’s repeated so many times that well yeah you don’t even have to prove it. You just kind of gesture at the cultural Gemini to say well obviously, but you can’t actually prove it because it’s not true. The dust bowl was a genocide, but we are taught that communism was evil for a famine. Fascism is capitalism at the end of its life. There is no other path for it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

Germany paid for the military advance of fascist Jewish groups that just so happen to be ethnically German. That is not a reparation. It’s a bribe.

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Anonymous replying to -> alphanerd 12w

Dust Bowl a genocide? The fuck kind of statement is that? Need to go to a library and read up.

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Anonymous replying to -> alphanerd 12w

Fascism is capitalism in decay ahh statement, vague and broad. Let’s stick to the basics for you buddy.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Fascism is the continuation of economic inequality by undemocratic means. That is what the US is, and it has been for the last hundred years that the term fascism has been used in the English language, and again I cannot stress this enough, black authors, have put this in writing every 18 months that entire time.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

The dust bowl was a genocide. And it is extremely obvious how doctored and self-serving American social studies is that the last famine in the USSR and the last famine in China are pointed to as evidence for the absolute failure of those systems when there were entire Mexican populations that were just minding their own business the whole fucking time who had birthright citizenship , who were ethically cleansed the second their neighbors farmland got overeploited an destroyed.

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Anonymous replying to -> alphanerd 12w

Yeah bruv, I ain’t reading all that. But I can tell you’re of touch with the real world aren’t you?

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Anonymous replying to -> alphanerd 12w

Need to get off the app tbh. Gotta be the most dumbass take I’ve ever seen on the Dustbowl.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

white men are a blight. hit the books, moron

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