Anonymous #4 7w

Well capitalism has not been doing what we were promised

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Anonymous #2 7w

you like paying $20 for a burger combo, $2,000 for rent, thousands for a 5 minute ambulance ride, and watching millionaire CEOs get record bonuses while wages barely keep up?

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Anonymous #5 7w

It has been and it’s a failed experiment

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Anonymous OP 7w

Computah show me an economy with no government intervention

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Anonymous #1 7w

Bro what burger are you getting five guys? Just go to Freddys and get the whole Shabang for 14$

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Anonymous #5 7w

The endgame of capitalism is when the wealthy can buy politicians, lobbying to get laws passed in their favor, and own most of media platforms

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Anonymous #4 7w

I’m not a Freddys plant btw I just really like it

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Anonymous OP 7w

What system would you prefer? And how limited would the free market (core of capitalism) be?

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Anonymous #1 7w

Don’t be so focused on the negatives. I love all the choices in the stock market and like doing my own research/analysis. I love how easy it is to set up LLCs and start a business. I love how we can access professional certifications online to further our careers.

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Anonymous #4 7w

Socialism(except the public would own everything, not the government, not wealthy people, but the community)

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Anonymous #4 7w

that’s still like 2 hours of work considering the federal wage is 7.25. as someone that’s lived in europe, $14 is still absurd

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Anonymous OP 7w

Thats not real capitalism

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Anonymous #1 7w

Don’t pay $20 for the burger combo, that in the long run will cancel out the 5 min ambulance ride. And live where the rent isn’t 2000. Get a job that pays a living wage

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Anonymous #1 7w

Most places don’t pay the federal minimum wage. Because other jobs pay more, it’s doesn’t make sense to do that anymore. Simply work at a different job. For example, Freddy’s starts at 15$ an hour and tips are available

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Anonymous OP 7w

How would the free market be impacted? Would the state own all means of consumer production? If it’s owned “by the community” what does that mean?

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Anonymous #2 7w

well none of those are exclusive to American capitalism. you can invest in the stock market, start businesses, and earn professional certifications in plenty of countries with stronger worker protections, universal healthcare, and lower education costs. the question isn’t whether markets are useful, it’s why americans pay so much more for the same basic necessities

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Anonymous #1 7w

OP states “no more capitalism ever” which include the elements that make it up (Free market, private ownership, land ownership, the stock market). If we’re getting rid of the system that means all of those elements go too. I think what #2 is pointing out is that, while capitalism has bad stuff, there are also a lot of benefits.

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Anonymous #4 7w

The type of capitalism we have now has created a neo-feudalist society where the wealthy own almost everything

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Anonymous #6 7w

‘just don’t buy it’ and ‘just get a better job’ aren’t economic arguments. they’re admissions that the system only works if people can avoid participating in it which isn’t possible for most

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Anonymous #4 7w

that’s survivorship bias. not everyone has access to a $15/hr job, and even $15/hr is only about $31k a year before taxes. in many parts of the US, that’s still nowhere near enough to comfortably afford rent, healthcare, transportation, groceries, and save for emergencies. the fact that SOME employers pay more than federal minimum wage doesn’t mean the affordability crisis disappears

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Anonymous OP 7w

The point #4 was making was that our system contains major benefits for the common man. He’s not denying that there aren’t also huge problems with the system. I agree. Since I like a lot about capitalism (private ownership, etc.) I would advocate less for “no more capitalism ever” and more “let’s improve regulation and social policies to supporting the free market and American citizen”

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Anonymous #1 7w

By not buying it and getting better job the person would be adhering to the basic principles of free market economics. Participation in the system often allows one to get the most out of it.

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congratulations, you found one fast-food chain that pays above average (in my state they pay $17 an hour). that doesn’t explain why the richest country in the world still has millions of people struggling to afford basic necessities

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Anonymous #4 7w

just don’t buy it only works if the market offers realistic alternatives. you can’t simply opt out of housing, healthcare, utilities, or groceries. those aren’t luxury purchases, they’re necessities. a market isn’t truly free when consumers have little bargaining power over goods they literally need to survive.

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