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This is still so bizarre to me
51 upvotes, 27 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in US Politics. "This is still so bizarre to me"
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Anonymous 14h

Even fucking North Korea voted for it.

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Anonymous 13h

Wait who was the other no

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Anonymous 14h

I’d rather teach a man to fish than give him half of my fish for the rest of my life.

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Anonymous 15h

correct me if i’m but wrong but i believe their “no” votes were due to economic considerations (ex: giving food to all homeless people would require a massive amount of money and ultimately affect taxpayers negatively)

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Even if this were the case, every other country was faced with similar issues and still recognized that food should be a right and not a privilege. Taking care of your people and their health directly corresponds with happier citizens and lower crime for example.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

in an ideal world it is, but that just isn’t realistic. many African countries simply don’t have the economic means to effectively deliver food to all of their citizens for free.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

But it wasn’t the African countries who voted against it now was it

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 14h

no it wasn’t, that’s my point. they’re voting for idealistic things, not practical.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 14h

Basically all UN votes like this are just moral posturing and nothing enforceable would’ve likely come out of it. Their explanation was that food security should be seen more as an aspiration than an enforceable legal obligation. But even then like you could’ve just voted yes and avoided looking ridiculous since probably nothing would’ve come from it anyway

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 14h

Why wouldn’t they?😭 They have food shortages because of sanctions- What isn’t surprising is how the people behind said sanctions voted against it💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 14h

Yeah because of American intervention💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 13h

I’m saying we should create more jobs and educate people. How is that a hot take 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 13h

You can teach a man to fish, but the bait is expensive, the poles more expensive, and the boat more expensive than that. And so, he doesn’t eat, while you, the man who already has all that, sits on mountains of fish you could never consume by yourself. That is the reality of capitalism, and why, despite having more food globally than we need, starvation still exists.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12h

Bro you’re missing the point. I’m saying the people with money invest in people who are willing to work, so they have an opportunity to provide for themselves. And this opportunity would be provided to anyone who wants it. And the ones who are too lazy to work, are homeless and don’t deserve to be given anything for free.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 12h

I’m not missing the point, I just disagree. I think that we, collectively, have a duty to raise the quality of life for everyone. I don’t think there’s any reason that we still have to live by the literal Stone Age philosophy of “work or die” when we have more than enough resources for everyone to be fed. It doesn’t have to be glamorous, but at the very least, there should be a bare minimum level of care given to those without jobs to ensure they stay alive and healthy.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 12h

If we’re not working toward trying to better the lives of all humans, then what the hell is the point of anything? If your ideal utopia is one where homelessness still exists, then I think you need to take a second and think about what kind of person you are.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12h

Look up how much food the U.S alone literally throws away every year. If our system is one where things must be wasted to keep the economy functional, then it’s a bad system.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 11h

Israel

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11h

Fork found in fork factory

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 11h

I’m not trying to be grim with my opinions. But when so many people are dysfunctional and chasing a high on the streets, it’s absolutely necessary that they become hungry, literally and metaphorically. If you keep people at a baseline where they are comfortable enough, they will continue to draw from the system, while not providing anything in return. And I know this to be true from many real life experiences.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 11h

But just to be clear, I really advocate for children being supported by the system. A child should never go hungry. But for the parents or adults who have had their chance, that’s different. But there’s a lot of things we could still do to combat this. I think pharmaceutical companies should be held more accountable for addictive substances, and mental health support should be invested in.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 11h

Why?

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 11h

Sorry, I should elaborate. Why should we intentionally cause so much pain to people who have been screwed by capitalism just to prevent “welfare queens”? That subset of the population is minuscule. Is it really worth sticking it to them if it means that we also fuck over the people who have been laid off, or whose industries were automated out of existence, or who have been kicked out of their house at 18? I’m sorry, but it doesn’t make sense to me.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 10h

And I should say this, I have experience with those people too. Night after night, those homeless addicts chasing a high filter into the emergency room at hospitals, siphoning off resources and making a fool of themselves, all just so they can have a bed, a meal, and a roof over their heads. Those are resources that should be better spent on people who need it. But instead, we’re so blinded by our hatred for them that we miss the obvious answer: Give them a bed, a roof, and a meal elsewhere.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 10h

And I’m sorry, but I don’t see how mental health support and feeding children but not their parents fits into your worldview. Will that mental health support be provided free of charge? Because otherwise the people you want to access it can’t. And feeding kids, but not their parents. It’s a great idea in theory, but how are you going to stop the starving adults from taking some of their child’s food?

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 8h

Feed the children at school. Invest in our kids through education and safety programs administered through our schools. I would much rather provide government resources towards a future generation than wasting it on old crackheads in the streets. Everyone is capable of becoming successful in our country. The sentiment of systemic racism and being “screwed over” by capitalism is a total joke. Enough of the victim mentality.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 8h

Your follow up has been very revealing. You started with a humanitarian approach and quickly pivoted to hostility towards capitalism. If socialism is what you preach, I fully expect you to go and share everything you worked hardly for, to people who abuse the system and squandered their opportunities. Let me know how that goes.

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