Anonymous #2 14w

Fuck do you mean what is this genocide, were you in a coma for the last 3 years?

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Anonymous #2 14w

I would support the people who were killing the people geocoding me if I was a Palestinian.

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Anonymous OP 14w

First of all, it’s a war, not a genocide, but we can get into that in another thread. Secondly, in this comment it suggests Hamas is a result of a genocide, but that makes no sense given that Hamas existed way before October 7, and started the war in the first place.

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Anonymous #2 14w

The ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and apartheid state of Israel has existed before October 7th, which is precisely why Hamas has existed before October 7th.

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Anonymous OP 14w

That’s actually an insane take. Hamas targeted Israeli CIVILIANS on October 7. Not even soldiers. They took CIVILIAN hostages. You can’t preach for the IDF to try to discriminate between Hamas and civilians (which it does, by the way) and then say it’s okay for Hamas to murder, rape and torture Israeli civilians. Can’t have it both ways, my friend.

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Anonymous #2 14w

What evidence do you have the proves it’s a war, because the percentage of civilians killed, the complete wiping out of entire cities, and the starvation efforts all support the fact that it is genocide

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Anonymous OP 14w

Explain to me how Israel is an apartheid state, and explain how there has been ethnic cleansing.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Israel is an apartheid state because Palestinians are either completely barred from entering Israel, or are prescribed second class citizenship. Ethnic cleansing: wiping out entire Palestinian cities with the purpose of repopulating them with Israeli settlers. As Trump Gaza shows very blatantly, America and Israel are trying to repopulate rubble with settlers

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Anonymous OP 14w

The fact that if Israel wanted a genocide, Gaza would have been a parking lot on October 8. They have more than enough resources for that. And if you want to make the argument they were waiting for the hostages to get back, they’re all back now. And Gaza is still not a parking lot. The IDF drops leaflets on buildings before they’re bombed telling civilians to evacuate. Hamas then tells them to stay because they want the West to scream “genocide” so they get more donations.

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Anonymous OP 14w

But “Palestine” is its own sovereign territory with its own government. What you said is half true, Palestinians are not allowed to enter Israel if they don’t recognize Israel as a state. If they do, they are welcome to come work, and even become an Israeli citizen if they so choose. Get out of your echo chamber and actually read up on it. Your ethnic cleansing claim is blatantly false. Israel has stated time and again it has no intent of repopulating Gaza with Israelis.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Maybe don’t fucking bomb buildings where civilians stay and we wouldn’t be having this conversation? Blaming Hamas for people dying by Israeli bombs is something else, you scumbag. Also not a parking lot? What the fuck is this then? Gaza has been carpet bombed to rubble

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Anonymous OP 14w

Are you deluded? Hamas hides all of their terrorists and terrorist infrastructure under and in civilian buildings. There are literally decades of reports to back this up. And what I meant is that if Israel wanted to “genocide” Gaza, there would be nothing, literally not a single Palestinian, left there. That’s what genocide means, after all.

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Anonymous #2 14w

The West Bank is currently being settled by barbaric Israeli settlers that burn, shoot, and mob the indigenous population of the area. Talking about echo chambers while spouting the most corporate, U.S. politicians talking points as to why genocide is actually justifiable is just rich.

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Unless you believe Jewish people weren’t genocided in the holocaust?

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Anonymous OP 14w

My comment got deleted but by your own metrics, the holocaust would not count as a genocide?

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Anonymous OP 14w

You are now completely changing the topic from Gaza to the West Bank (two completely different governments, btw). Fair to say you can’t counter what I said? As for the West Bank, I condemn the settlers who are violent towards the Palestinians there. But saying that’s a genocide or ethnic cleansing is an extreme stretch when the number of those violent settlers is in the hundreds, whereas there are attempted terrorist attacks paid for by the PLO (look up the West Bank Martyrs Fund)

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Anonymous #2 14w

if you don’t believe me, every single day.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Oh my god you actually are a lobotomite.

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Anonymous #2 14w

If a genocide is when all people are erased, why are there still Rwandans, Jewish people, indigenous Americans, etc?

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Anonymous OP 14w

Honey, it’s the attempted erasure of a people, not the erasure. The reason there are still Jews is because Germany was fighting a World War, and didn’t have the resources to completely annihilate the Jews (additionally, that task was impossible since there were Jews in the Middle East, Africa, other parts of Europe and North America). What I’ve said is that Israel has the resources to commit a genocide if they truly wanted to, which they don’t.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Never a day without a genocide sympathizer. You’ll be remembered for this, and only this, just like the only thing we remember the Nazis for is their genocide and support for said genocide.

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Anonymous #2 14w

And no, here’s the official definition of genocide boo, keywords being “in whole, or in part,” Per the UN: https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

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Anonymous #3 14w

See that initial line? “Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:”

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Anonymous #3 14w

Key word is “intent”, honey. As I said before, Israel has no intent of killing all of Gaza. If they did, they would all be dead!

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Anonymous #2 14w

You’re in no position to individually determine that, and that’s why you’re a genocide sympathizer. (Especially since multiple independent organizations have already identified intent in various areas, through the destruction of healthcare infrastructure, intentional creation of famine, destruction of water and power infrastructure, systematic targeting of mutual aid networks bringing resources to Palestinians, etc etc etc) You’re a sympathizer, just like the nazi civilians were

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Anonymous #2 14w

They’re pretty much doing it as fast as they possibly can without making the American public turn completely against them and stop sending foreign aid

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Anonymous #3 14w

I don’t have room to dispel each one of those claims individually in this thread, but if you really want to challenge yourself and get out of your echo chamber, my DMs are open and we can talk this out.

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Anonymous #4 14w

But, clearly if you’ve wisened up, then the American public has too!! I’ve seen so many protests, so clearly this strategy isn’t working for Israel. It’s almost like they aren’t trying to commit a genocide?

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Anonymous #2 14w

You. Are. A. Sympathizer.

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Anonymous #2 14w

bruh what is israel trying to do then? if not wipe out palestine

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Anonymous #1 14w

Israel has, since the war started, stated three goals for the war. 1 was the return of all Israeli hostages (whether dead or alive), which was achieved just a few days ago. 2 is the destruction of Hamas. 3 is the establishment of a new Palestinian-led government in Gaza, which will be peaceful, not run by terrorists, and improve the lives of both Palestinians and Israelis to avoid any further conflict down the line. That’s all.

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Anonymous #2 14w

See how you’re clinging onto the last few years, when this has been a genocide rooted in colonization for DECADES? Go ahead and research the Nakba; and don’t even try to parrot your genocidal propaganda denying the ethnic cleansing that occurred during the nakba either.

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Anonymous #2 14w

so we're actually believing what a government says at face value? a government that didn't want to murder thousands of innocents, violating cease fires, wouldn't.

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Anonymous #3 14w

There literally hasn’t been? You’re just so caught up in your echo chamber you fail to even entertain the other side. I’ve grappled with the Nakba. I understand that many unfortunately lost their homes. I also know that Ben Gurion gave each village an option: lay down your weapons, accept Israel as a valid state, and you can stay in your land and enjoy the full rights of Israeli citizenship. Look up Beit Safafa in Jerusalem, they accepted and most became citizens.

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Anonymous #2 14w

And if you’re looking to point fingers for 1948’s war, it’s pretty much universally agreed that it was the British’s fault.

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Anonymous #2 14w

You’re a pretty good advertisement for Campbell’s.

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