Anonymous #1 1w

She didn’t like her posts, she was hired as a freelance artist to illustrate for her. I doubt she went through her posts, she probably just saw that she was a Palestinian activist and agreed

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Anonymous OP 1w

Ohhhhh right, I see

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Anonymous #2 1w

It doesn’t really have much to do with them being Jewish, but rather decades of propaganda inflicted on, in particular, Jewish people.

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Anonymous #2 1w

American Jews supported the war when it began as a response to October 7 where many had connections to people who died or were taken hostage. Support for a ceasefire grew very quickly after a few months

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Anonymous #3 1w

Most American Jews per survey data for years now support a 2 state solution

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Anonymous #3 1w

Also calling members of a minority cockroaches is just never appropriate in my book. There are much better ways of advocating for Palestinians and I’m happy mamdani is clear on that

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Anonymous #3 1w

I think it’s okay to refer as such to anyone of any race as such if they support genocide. It’s a bit silly that we’re concerned about the language by which an oppressed minority refer to the minority that is trying to eradicate them. He shouldn’t have stooped to address this smear, it’s a nothing burger (though I agree it wasn’t good)

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Anonymous #2 1w

So we probably shouldn’t be generalizing about the beliefs entire races btw. That might be a bad precedent

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Anonymous #2 1w

But it’s not true that the majority of Jews support genocide. And antisemitism is just as dangerous as Islamophobia or anti Arab/ Palestinian racism. There is simply no reason to partake in either. It only hurts whatever cause

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Anonymous #2 1w

Also I like when politicians address the concerns of their constituents and the media. Wish our president could do the same

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Anonymous #1 1w

Which I didn’t do? I said it’d be appropriate to refer to any genocidaires of any race in a derogatory fashion, not on the basis of some race monolithically. Learning comprehension is important.

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Anonymous #3 1w

A majority of Jewish people in America and Israel wholeheartedly supported the genocide in Gaza, for over a year. If the data shows that’s changed, that’d be wonderful, but losing support for the war because they want the hostages to come home, or because they’re tired of it isn’t the same as having moral issues with what was actually being done. Like c’mon we have Jewish institutions publicly asking if Holocaust education was a mistake and others redefining genocide so that the Holocaust is

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Anonymous #2 1w

the only genocide ever.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Supporting a 2 state solution doesn’t mean they oppose the flattening of Gaza post Oct 7th. A large marjory supported the war here and in Israel. Why can’t you accept this fact? Jewish Americans by and large simply aren’t as progressive as they have long identified as being, mostly on account of decades of generationally enforced white supremacist (zionist) propaganda.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Oh I’d also like to note that I agree. Antisemitism is a dire problem in the united states. People like you conflating opposition to genocide as antisemitism are a part of that problem… the polling data exists, it’s a really bad look why should we pretend otherwise (don’t get me started on the other cultural problems in Israel itself, re: women’s rights)

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Anonymous #2 1w

With all due respect, the vast majority of Jews do not support what happened in Gaza, with a plurality calling it a genocide. In fact the average Jewish persons opinion is probably right around that of the average American when it comes to this issue. So calling them out specifically as cockroaches is inappropriate and disgusting

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Anonymous #2 1w

Jewish people are not AIPAC. AIPAC represents a small number of older wealthy people and aren’t in any way accountable to the rest of the Jewish public

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Anonymous #3 1w

And the use of the words Jewish and cockroaches make it pretty clear this is about Jewish people. Using those words in the same sentence is a pretty dead giveaway of antisemitism. While Israel conflates opposition with antisemitism there are also plenty of people dressing up antisemitism with a very thin veil of being anti Israel. That needs to be called out too

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Anonymous #3 1w

I also don’t care what a minority thinks, I would never refer to a group of people who have been victims of extermination campaigns as “cockroaches.” I don’t even want to call that a dog whistle because it is beyond that

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Anonymous #2 1w

It’s not an ethnostate there are 2.1 million Arabs with full citizenship and legal equality in Israel

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Anonymous #3 1w

In any case I have always felt like mamdani was a genuine humanist who believed in universal human rights and I’m glad he continues to prove me right

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Anonymous #3 1w

Now vs a year ago? Vs two? Two years ago, long after it had internationally been condemned as genocide, it had 70%+ support. That’s my point. I don’t really care if they can call it what it is largely after the fact, when it was universally denied during the highest intensity.

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Anonymous #3 1w

He can be that but he goes about achieving it in a really bad and incompetent manner

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yes AIPAC is just a vector for the MIC mostly

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Anonymous #4 1w

Mamdani? Incompetent?

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Anonymous #3 1w

I’d have to see the original comments again, did they refer to all Jewish people? Because that’s the distinction. I don’t understand extending such grace to Jewish people who participate or support current genocide. To portray people actively carrying out genocide as victims is ridiculous and is a product of white supremacy

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Anonymous #2 1w

So you are moving the goalposts? Jews don’t support genocide now but they’re still cockroaches. Got it.

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Anonymous #4 1w

I mean they don’t actually have legal equality… and you’re kind of ignoring the equal number of Palestinians in the West Bank who live under de facto Israeli control yet have zero rights, nor the people in Gaza who have essentially lived in an open air prison camp for decades. It’s apartheid. Gaza and the West Bank are basically equivalent to the Bantustans that South Africa had, “see look they have self government in the cage we put them in”

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yes dude he’s gonna kill a ton of low margin businesses p soon

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Anonymous #3 1w

I agree, but again I think it was a blunder to even call attention to this irrelevant nonsense. He did nothing wrong, his wife didn’t even do anything wrong, answering for the behavior of random other people only feeds the GOP fascists who are making these absolute reaches of accusations. He needs to thicken his skin basically.

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Anonymous #4 1w

How so, and what does that have to do with being a humanist who believes in universal human rights?

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Anonymous #2 1w

I disagree. He’s being morally consistent and staying true to his values. That’s the sign of a strong leader

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Anonymous #2 1w

I strongly disagree. He should nip it in the bud ASAP. The worst thing he can do is decline to comment if a reporter asks, or otherwise dodge the subject. It makes him look like he has something to hide, and then it snowballs

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Anonymous #2 1w

Is it an open air prison camp or is it a beautiful paradise that Israel destroyed make up your fucking minds

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Anonymous #3 1w

He’s giving them less ammunition not more

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Anonymous #1 1w

He’s trying to do good things but he’s doing it and trying to pay for it in the worst way possible

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Anonymous #4 1w

Are you hallucinating?

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Anonymous #4 1w

Still haven’t told me how it hurts low margin businesses btw

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Anonymous #3 1w

My point is that I don’t believe the sincerity of people (Jewish and not) who were totally cool with a live-streamed genocide for years, but are against it now that the majority of society are. I don’t think changing your tune only because of backlash constitutes an actual change in views. Anyone who supports any genocide could be aptly described as all manner of bugs, god you’re so fucking disingenuous constantly making it about race as though the worst offenders aren’t white christian’s.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Didn’t he apologize? That’s what I’m against more specifically. It’s an admission of guilt to apologize. He has to be careful.

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Anonymous #1 1w

The specific policy I’m referring to is raising corporate taxes by over 50%

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Anonymous #4 1w

If they can’t pay their employees they deserve to go out of business…

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Anonymous #3 1w

Portraying a minority like Jews as a class of “genocide supporters” enables violence against them like what just happened in Michigan. Making sweeping generalizations like that about any minority is just wrong and is ripe for enabling discrimination prejudice and violence

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Anonymous #4 1w

An open air prison camp. The fact that people did their best to build things in between the levelings by Israel doesn’t change that. For a while Israel was relatively hands off, except for occasionally shooting some people on the street, or blowing up little kids on the beach for no reason.

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Anonymous #3 1w

And if no data will convince you because apparently Jews are “insincere” about their positions I really don’t know what to tell you

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Anonymous #3 1w

It is factual that a large majority of Jewish people are Zionists and that genocide and terrorism are inherent in Zionism (as in any expansionist, nationalist ideology). Black people in America are generally super homophobic. Is it racist to say that?

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Anonymous #2 1w

“Israel occasionally shot people” Hamas has launched daily rockets for 25 years from Gaza. Now Israel shoots back and you’re mad?

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Anonymous #3 1w

Jesus christ you’re doing it again. They aren’t insincere because they’re Jewish but because I don’t buy that suddenly everyone changed their mind just in time for it to be the prevailing view (and for the prior view which was near unanimous) to be socially unacceptable to hold the prior view. Would you like to actually cite this data? Because all the polls from during the war paint a depressing picture.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Hamas was literally funded by Israel for most of those 25 years… and Israel wasn’t shooting back at Hamas rocket sites, Im referring to the snipers that have long targeted medics, the press and just random bystanders at protests and the like, for decades. “muh hamas rockets” doesn’t justify shooting a 11 year old with a rock in the head, or, as IDF snipers love to make commemorative merch about, shooting pregnant women.

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Anonymous #2 1w

HAMAS WAS FUNDED BY ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT OF GAZA. You guys keep saying “Israel doesn’t feed Gaza” but when Israel DOES give them money or food, you try that stupid argument. We aren’t stupid

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Anonymous #2 1w

I guess an alternate explanation would be people learned about an issue and shifted their view? But if you want want to live your life believing a whole group of people are evil and untrustworthy that’s your prerogative I just see the world differently

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Anonymous #3 1w

I’m gay and lots of parts of the world have really hateful views of gay people. I would never call those communities cockroaches and make such sweeping generalizations , for example

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Anonymous #4 1w

This was going on a decade before Hamas seized power in Gaza… and even as recently as the late 2010s Netanyahu and others talked about wanting a “strong Hamas” as it was an obstacle to Palestinian statement. Hamas is to Israel as the Taliban was to the US and how ISIS was to both the US and Israel, an asset which has gotten off the leash.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Again where do I say I believe this about all Jewish people? I think Jewish people who support genocide are evil, just like people of any other ethnicity who support genocide. Maybe they should stop supporting genocide? You literally can’t stop putting words in my mouth.

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Anonymous #3 1w

I’m sorry but if it took you two years of watching mass murder to decide it’s bad, you’re a bad person. What was there to learn? Israel has been doing shit like this for literally its entire history, this isn’t an aberration, it’s just the worst, most extreme instance yet of a decades long project of ethnic supremacism.

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Anonymous #4 1w

You’re either thinking of estate tax or personal income for people making over $1M. Corporate income tax is not going up by 50%

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Anonymous #1 1w

No, it’s part of his plan, look it up. He wants to raise it from 7.5% to 11%.

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Anonymous #1 1w

7.25 to 11.5% ^^

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Anonymous #4 1w

Would’ve been smarter for Israel to let food into Gaza so it would benefit the people instead of knowingly letting money flow to Hamas, which was then used to buy weapons, while the people remained starving

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Anonymous #4 1w

You do know it’s 11% in literally everything surrounding NYC right? There are no businesses that would actually go out of business over this, just business owners who will throw a tantrum over being a little less rich, because they’re parasites.

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Anonymous #1 1w

The people weren’t starving at the time? That happened when Israel deliberately cut off the flow of food for months, and also the whole, destroying all the fields, greenhouses, gardens etc.

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Anonymous #2 1w

You kept making generalized statements about most Jews being x. Just as more and more people worldwide saw it as a genocide as it unfolded so did Jewish people. Again, this whole thread is a comment about Jewish cockroaches not “people who support genocide cockroaches.” That is the problem

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Anonymous #2 1w

Dude low margin businesses will go out of business. Mom and pop restaurants and bodega owners, shit like that, they need every penny to stay afloat, and Mamdani is taking an extra 4.25%?

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Anonymous #4 1w

That’s the state corporate tax rate, which Hochul needs to sign off on, and she doesn’t plan to

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m aware, and I wasn’t replying to you lol. Israel encouraged Qatar to give people cash in Gaza, knowing that it was ending up in the hands of Hamas. And then they wondered where they got weapons from

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yeah but he wants to do that and it’s completely stupid and thus proves my point that he’s a dumbass

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Anonymous #4 1w

Sorry, top corporate tax rate***. So you’re saying this is going to hurt low margin businesses?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yes, if your net profit margin is only like 2-5% then the city doubling your taxes is gonna fuck you

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Anonymous #4 1w

Walk me through the math of how much this affects your 2% profit margin

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Anonymous #3 1w

did the comments people are objectin to not specify supporters of genocide?

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Anonymous #2 1w

They singled out Jewish people. That’s the problem. Singling out Jews and calling them cockroaches is dehumanizing and directly connected to anti Jewish violence which has been on the rise.

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Anonymous #1 1w

If you want me to do the math for you just lmk, it’s not a big deal

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Anonymous #1 1w

You’re paying over 50% more than you used to be paying. A whole 10% of the company’s income going down the shitter

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Anonymous #2 1w

At this point if you’re still alleging that American Jews overwhelmingly supported the war, you might as well find a poll. “Overwhelming” would be north of 70%, which would be surprising, but maybe I just don’t remember what it looked like back when this started

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Anonymous #4 1w

Huh? Where is 10% coming from lol

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Anonymous #1 1w

The corporate tax rate is going from 7.25% to 11.5%. I was rounding down to be charitable when I said “a whole 10% of their profits” because it’s closer to 13% than 10%

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Anonymous #4 1w

You know NY uses a progressive tax system right? It’s not flat. 7.25% is the top tax rate. You’re only paying that if your profits are over $5M per year

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Anonymous #1 1w

If you’re doing $100M in revenue and only walking away with $5M pre-tax, you have a bigger problem than your tax bill going from 362k to 562k

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Anonymous #3 1w

who else do you think is going the genocide in Gaza???

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Anonymous #3 1w

I also just would avoid using the word cockroaches on people in general… that’s some eugenic rhetoric right there

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Anonymous #1 1w

So you don’t actually have a poll showing attitudes changed? Cool cause it polled above 70% in America, and even higher in Israel.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Jews =/ Israelis

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Anonymous #3 1w

I think you might need to update the Israeli government on that, they must’ve missed the memo…

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Anonymous #2 1w

Can you link it?

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Anonymous #2 1w

You are committing the same fallacy by holding American Jews responsible for Gaza.

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Also according to a Washington post poll from this past fall 61% of American Jews thought Israel committed war crimes in Gaza. At the same time 70% of democrats thought Israel had gone “too far.” I would say war crimes is slightly stronger language so American Jews were about aligned with liberal Americans

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Anonymous #3 1w

Republicans and independents both agreed with that statement at way lower rates

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Anonymous #3 1w

So maybe singling out American Jews is not in fact productive especially in light of rising violence against them

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Anonymous #3 1w

This was an active shooter at a kindergarten in a quiet suburb… I would hope they would dedicate their entire force to that shit. And Jewish feelings holy how callous can you be? This guy tried to murder a bunch of kids

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Anonymous #1 1w

She did actually like a bunch of posts that denied the rape accusations and called the 10-7 people heroes

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Anonymous #2 1w

Your issue is you’re trying to link the act of supporting genocide back to the overall identity of being Jewish, rather than recognizing that it’s linked to Zionism as an ideology, not Jewish people in their entirety. Zionism≠Judaism, and there are an abundance of Jewish people who are vocally advocating for Palestinian rights and for the colonial genocide to end. Stop doing the work for neonazis by spreading their propo (because you sound like a groyper co-opting the movement)

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Anonymous #5 1w

and needless to say, but if you claim to be opposed to the concept of “Jewish supremacy”(whatever the fuck that means), you BETTER be actively fighting against the modern revival of systemic white supremacy. don’t start talking about Palestinian emancipation if you’re only looking to vilify Jewish people as a group. You’ve lost the damn plot if that’s the case (none of us are free, until we all are free)

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Anonymous #5 1w

I love the way you put that thank you!

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Anonymous #5 1w

Where can the Jewish people live safely? If you give Israel over to Palestine they’ll all be slaughtered, and over half of Israeli Jews come from populations that were forced out of their old countries on point of gun and bayonet. They can’t go back there, they’ll be slaughtered. If you send them to Europe, they’ll be pissed about taking Jewish refugees, and there’ll be even more antisemitism and hate crimes than there already is, which might get fomented into another Holocaust.

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Anonymous #5 1w

If they go to America, they’re already at a way higher risk for hate crimes and they’d be even worse. They’d be slaughtered. The safest place for Jews to be is the one place where they have a majority in the population and have 7 layers of air defence.

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Anonymous #4 1w

why do you say that? you do understand that people of a variety of identities coexisted and thrived together prior to the creation of the state of Israel, right? is that type of question, rooted in fear and hatred, a bit of a Freudian slip on your end? In my honest opinion, I’d advocate for coexistence as has existed before. There doesn’t need to be a two-state distinction at all, and it’s only served thus far as an aggression towards the existing state of Palestine and its population.

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Anonymous #5 1w

My friend, we are witnessing “another holocaust” right now, focused on a different target. this is expanding to multiple nations around the world, as watchdog organizations are declaring red flags and states of emergency regarding the degrading civil rights worldwide, and increasing violence towards specific demographics.

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Anonymous #4 1w

we are going in the wrong direction, we should be striving for cooperation and coexistence among all species of life on earth, at the bare minimum starting with our own.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Lastly, I’d argue this type of rhetoric is immensely dangerous. Israel is becoming an international target due to its increased aggression in its genocidal colonization of Palestine, and towards other nations in the region. people are not safe there, and I’d argue it’s strange to think that they are. The government of Israel is putting an ever increasing target on itself, which almost always comes at the costs of civilians. and again, why do you insist that the outcome is “being slaughtered”

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Anonymous #3 1w

I appreciate you!!🫶

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Anonymous #5 1w

Comparing 70,000 dead to 6 million is fucking psychotic

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Anonymous #5 1w

Also, Israel keeps offering a two state solution, and Palestine keeps saying no and has been sending more than 1 rocket per day at Israel for a quarter of a century. If those rockets hit every time the casualties would dwarf the number of dead in Gaza

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Anonymous #5 1w

The outcome is “being slaughtered” because the hadiths literally say that Islamic paradise can’t come until the rocks and trees themselves reveal the Jews and tell the Muslims to kill them

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Anonymous #5 1w

Yeah this literally has nothing to do with what I’ve said, you’re a deeply unserious person. “Jewish supremacy (whatever the fuck that means)” jesus fucking christ media figures or soldiers or politicians go on TV in Israel every day and say that every palestinian or every arab is a subhuman dog and that we need to kill every single on even the kids and so on. You don’t think the behavior of Israel demonstrates a view where the lives of anyone that isn’t a Jewish Israeli is valued as lesser?

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Anonymous #4 1w

You mean the rape accusations that have been solidly debunked? Like yes, there were some cases of rape or sexual violence and that’s horrible. But there’s literally been like 3 actually made. A far cry from the Israeli govt’s claim of systematic mass rape, just like there weren’t 40 beheaded babies and so on. These are blatant lies, it’s propaganda for the purpose of making the West support genocide.

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Anonymous #4 1w

You think those rockets would kill upwards of the 300,000 people Israel has murdered? i want what you’re smoking. the only time Israel has offered a viable deal for a two state solution, you know what happened? The PM got murdered and replaced by Netanyahu (who had advanced knowledge of the assassination and didn’t warn him). Israel loves to offer dishonest, unfair deals where they get all the arable land and Palestinians get rocky hillsides that aren’t even connected together.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Yeah because the real number is upwards of 300,000, over the course of the entire conflict since the start it’s upwards of 600,000. In the last two years a substantial percentage of the civilian population of Gaza has been murdered.

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Anonymous #4 1w

America has been the safest place to be Jewish for literally several hundred years. Israel hasn’t been the safest place to be Jewish since the 70s AD. You do realize that majority was achieved through murder, rape and ethnic cleansing right? And that 80 years of that have done nothing but increase antisemitism worldwide? It’s the policy of the Israeli government to bolster antisemitism as much as possible, but that is what it uses to justify its own illegal behavior.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Zionism / Jewish supremacy is literally an offshoot of white supremacy… there’s a reason Israel was founded by Ashkenazim who literally thought that Mizrahi Jews (who were already there before them) were ‘too oriental’, and would literally take away their kids or forcibly sterilize them in the way that the rest of the western world treated their minorities.

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Anonymous #2 1w

So it’s not Jewish supremacy because it was literally used against other Jews. Do you go around talking about Islamic supremacy? Because lots of violence in the name of Islam has been lobbed against non Muslims and Muslims around the world. But in the US that framing is generally a dog whistle

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Anonymous #4 1w

That Hadith refers to an army of Jews, Persians, Turks and various others, in the context of all those groups literally abandoning their religions to follow some sort of devil-like false god, who battles against Jesus in the end times. It is not a commandment saying “go kill all the Jewish people”, and to interpret it that way is to lie. Where’s this energy for the protestants by the way, who are Israel’s greatest supporters whose end times requires that the entire population of Israel

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Anonymous #2 1w

(intended to be all Jewish people), are essentially a human sacrifice to trigger the end times and the rapture. For literally hundreds of years Muslims and Jews lived in peace during a time when Christendom was largely exterminating or expelling its entire Jewish population, how does that square with your interpretation?

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Anonymous #2 1w

I also wouldn’t paper over the ways in which Jews were in fact marginalised in Muslim lands. No, not as bad as Europe but they were second class citizens and were thoroughly ethnically cleansed upon the formation of Israel which they had no role in

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Anonymous #3 1w

It is Jewish supremacy because it places Jewish people above their neighbors. My point was that this ideology is absolutely related to white supremacy because Jewish people with a more European background are also favored (because Mizrahim are ‘too similar’ to ‘the enemy’)

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yes and that was bad, doesn’t change that for centuries Jewish people could live normal, safe lives for the most part, save for an extra tax (also paid by Christians and other non-Muslims). It’s disingenuous to act like Islam teaches people to “go kill all the Jews”, when it doesn’t, especially when you use it to justify the mass murder of muslims. It shows you’re not a serious person with rational beliefs, instead you’ll claim whatever you need to, to justify why you already believe.

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Anonymous #2 1w

That’s Zionism though. It’s its own ideology. There is not a problem of Jewish supremacy in other places where there are Jews. It’s not some systemic problem baked into Judaism like white supremacy is baked into whiteness

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m not saying Islam tells people to kill Jews. I never said that. What I did say is there wasn’t some golden age where Jews were equals in the Middle East. It was better than Europe but that’s a low bar. We should acknowledge all forms of discrimination and not turn a blind eye to one in favor of another

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Anonymous #3 1w

You seem determined to downplay antisemitism and accuse jews as a group of all kinds of things when you can be in favor of Palestinian liberation without doing all that. And would be in fact more effective by being consistent about universal human rights

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Anonymous #3 1w

If “Muslim supremacist cockroaches” makes you wince “Jewish supremacist cockroaches” should as well

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Anonymous #3 1w

We also have other evidence of hateful things she has said (see below)

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yes and I never said it was? There are tons of Jewish people in America and Israel (and everywhere) that are against the war, against the violence, against Netanyahu etc. Zionism as an ideology is predicated on racial supremacism because how else do you justify what you have to do to create a majority Jewish state on land where Jews are a minority.

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Anonymous #3 1w

thank you for finally presenting specific details, the police car comment is horrible

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Anonymous #2 1w

Yes, Zionism is a subset of white supremacy, but that’s kinda the point. You’re still conflating Zionism as “Jewish supremacy”, but I haven’t seen you once discuss white supremacy and how it’s once again rising in the world. could it be that you’re solely trying to fixate on Jewish people, instead of Zionists, in order to feel “better” or something? in the conversation of Palestinian emancipation, Zionists are at fault, not Jewish people. Zionism is not limited to Jewish people either, as

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Anonymous #5 1w

there are plenty Christian nationalists and islam nationalists who also openly ascribe to and support Zionism. Stop generalizing the blame to all Jewish people, and start talking about the actual root problems: white supremacy, antisemitism, theocracy, and theocratic nationalism.

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