Anonymous #1 11w

Sike

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Woah! Oh my Gosh! You just removed Israel from existence 🤯

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Anonymous #1 11w

If only it were that easy to eliminate a genocidal state.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

“Eliminate” like get rid of everyone living there? What happens next? What does this whole process look like?

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Anonymous #1 11w

Eliminate a STATE babes. Learn to read.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Getting rid of everyone would look exactly like what Israel is doing to Gaza.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

But what happens next? What happens to the people living there? What does this entire process of “eliminating a state” look like?

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Anonymous #1 11w

Idk, why don’t we ask Ben, he knows a lot about eliminating an entire people group, their culture, and their state.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

I’m asking you, not Ben. If you don’t know the answer then kindly stfu

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Anonymous #1 11w

Stfu you genocidal pos.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

You called for the elimination of an entire country, that sounds pretty genocidal to me

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Anonymous #1 11w

A country is not a people. Maybe don’t build an ethnostate 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Ethnostate my ass

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Anonymous #1 11w

Lol. Lmfao even.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Bro didn’t read a single word

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Anonymous #1 11w

You defend Ben and genocide. I’m Not gonna listen to you 😂🖕🏻

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

I don’t even like Ben either but it’s the words of one person you’re using to judge another country. If you were from England and you heard all the shit that someone like Pete Hegseth says, would you call for the elimination of the U.S.?

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Anonymous #1 11w

Is it the words of one person though? I seem to recall Israelis on the verge of rioting bc Israeli soldiers were being arrested for gang raping a prisoner.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

These were far-right Israeli extremists and far-right members of Parliament. Thousands of far-right extremist Americans supported and participated in an insurrection attempt because their cult leader lost. Far right members of Congress supported it too. Do you see calls to eliminate the U.S. because of the actions of one political faction?

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Bro you literally downvoted the reply in 2 seconds. You didn’t even read what I wrote.

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Anonymous #1 11w

The USA is not actively conducting a genocide on its native people, though it did before. I do think the colonial state should be abolished. It’s not about Jews, it’s about the lack of humanity from the whole damn country.

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Anonymous #1 11w

I did read it lmao

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

The USA has and is committing numerous human rights violations on people abroad and at home, Israel is too. We can agree on that.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

You downvoted it in 2 seconds, unless you have some super special ability to read 50 words per second

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Anonymous #1 11w

How about this. Any country that commits genocide should be shattered just like we did to Germany.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Germany still exists tf? You’re thinking of a regime change, and I’m in total support of that

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Anonymous #1 11w

Nazi germany doesnt exist. Germany didn’t exist for decades. It was bartered and occupied and eventually rebuilt.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Lemme ask you a question. Do you think Israel is committing genocide or apartheid (like experts and even the UN says)?

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

So… specify Nazi Germany. Because Germany is a thriving, Democratic nation today, which exists.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Germany also didn’t conduct mass extermination of the native people but hey what do I know 🤷. Anyways. Plewse answer the question, do you think Israel is committing genocide like experts say?

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

A UN Inquiry accused Israel of committing genocide. A UN Inquiry does not represent the official stance or opinion of the United Nations. Has Israel committed war crimes? Absolutely. Have they committed genocide/apartheid? No. Israel is engaged in a war with Hamas, who attacked the country, killed and kidnapped 1300+ people. And I am aware this did not start on 10/7, it has been going on for at least 100 years. Israel is not an apartheid state because 25% of the population is Arab and enjoy…

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Anonymous #1 11w

…full rights such as voting, and running for office. There are Arabs in the Knesset and on the Supreme Court.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

If by “natives” you mean Jews, then you’re kinda right because Jews are native to the Levant, so I guess that’s one way to accurately deny the Holocaust 😂

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Im not downplaying the Holocaust. It was one of the greatest atrocities humans have ever committed.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

So what exactly were you trying to imply?

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Anonymous #2 11w

plus he’s intentionally being provocative bc he knows bibi’s most likely going to lose the next election he’ll be out of power

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Anonymous #1 11w

So that means they aren’t conducting genocide? Arabs in government means nothing. African Americans held slaves does that mean slavery didn’t exist?

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Anonymous #1 11w

If what Israel is doing isn’t bad or genocide or apartheid then you’d have no problem if the roles were reversed. Hmm?

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Anonymous #2 11w

And yet Zionists keep voting for the genocidal government. Almost like most of the country has been brainwashed into hating an ethnic group.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

no they don’t really, israel has a parliamentary system and bibi in 2022 just barely managed to form a coalition by inviting a couple of tiny extremist parties into his coalition— those parties had like one seat each and had never been in gov before. that gave him a razor thin majority but also meant that the tiny parties had crazy power bc any time Bibi did something they didn’t like they’d threaten to drop out of his coalition and collapse his government until he stopped. people were furious

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Anonymous #2 11w

bibi knows the second he’s out of office he’s going to jail for corruption, so he’s taken every possible excuse to delay elections and there haven’t been elections since. but he ran out of excuses and now elections are coming up and he is predicted to lose badly

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

You’re comparing two completely different things, that is a terrible analogy. One of the biggest indicators of a non-apartheid state is the ability for people of several backgrounds and nationalities to freely participate in society, which accurately describes Israel. Slavery definitely existed and its victims\perpetrators are not secluded to one group of people. Some Hispanics and LGBTQ+ individuals voted for Trump, some Jews voted for Hitler

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Anonymous #2 11w

^ jail part is also why he was so willing to appease the extremists

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Anonymous #2 11w

Nice to see people actually educated on Israeli politics and being able to draw some similarities to the U.S. and its situation with Trump

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Anonymous #1 11w

Okay fine. That’s fair. But if what Israel is doing isn’t bad or wrong or genocide then Zionists should have no problem with what’s being done to Palestinians to Israelis.

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Anonymous #1 11w

did u hear about how he tried to make it illegal for israelis in israel to help israelis abroad to come back to vote

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Anonymous #2 11w

And yet Israeli society has been built on the extermination of Palestinians. Israeli opposition parties hold similar views on Palestine has the far right ruling party. It’s not the same as trump and his “opposition”.

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Anonymous #2 11w

I have not heard about this. That’s insanely corrupt.

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Anonymous #1 11w

its truly insane

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

not really. israel’s opposition leaders currently oppose establishing a Palestinian state bc they think it would just give Hamas a ton of power. but the opposition includes multiple powerful Arab (i say Arab not Palestinian bc they don’t all identify as Palestinian) parties who are VERY pro-Palestinian statehood

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Never said what Israel is doing isn’t bad. All war is bad, but I think it’s logical to assume that if your country is attacked, you’re going to fight back

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Anonymous #2 11w

So 1 or 2, neither of you will answer the question??

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

sorry which question?

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Anonymous #1 11w

Murdering, raping, and kidnapping civilians is not fighting back. Bulldozing schools, hospitals, and cemeteries is not fighting back. It’s a war crime.

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Anonymous #2 11w

If what Israel is doing to Palestinians isn’t genocide/war crimes/bad then would you be upset if it was in reverse? Would you be upset if thousands of Israeli children were killed or maimed and left to die in the rubble?

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Yeah, it is a war crime. The things you described Israel doing, Hamas also did on 10/7.

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Anonymous #1 11w

So if it’s bad when Hamas does it why aint it bad when Israel does? Why is it okay for them to bomb hospitals to supposedly root out Hamas but not okay for Hamas to do it?

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Anonymous #1 11w

You also understand every day has been 10/7 for Palestine for decades right? Just want clarification.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

it is war crimes, i am upset about it, i would still be upset about it if it was reversed. idk if it’s specifically genocide bc genocide is a very difficult thing to prove esp in a situation where there’s also legitimate reasons for war and i dont think we’ll know definitively for a long time what it was. but it was horrific and wrong and israeli leaders and hamas leaders should be held accountable for the massive human rights violations they committed against palestinians

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Yes, I am aware that thousands of people have died in a conflict that has been going on for a century. Do you also understand that Palestinians have attacked Israelis to advance their priorities, even through messages such as aircraft hijackings, suicide bombings, etc.? I’m just trying to make sure that both of us can find some nuance here and not see everything as Black and White.

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Anonymous #2 11w

And yet only Hamas is being held accountable or liable by Zionists and the vast majority of the western world/governments. If what is being done to Palestinians were being done to Jews in Germany or any nation for that matter you (generalized) would be Quick to call it a genocide but why when it’s Palestinians ( a group Israel has spent decades and countless amount of money dehumanizing) it’s suddenly not genocide, or it’s “well hmmm I don’t really know it’s complicated”. That’s an excuse.

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Anonymous #2 11w

There is no legitimate reason for murdering and targeting children. There is no excuse for letting this violence go unpunished. There is no excuse for defending rapists. There is no excuse Zionists can hide behind.

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Anonymous #2 11w

Those coalitions clearly support him

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

idk why people in one breath will say only hamas is being held accountable in the west and then in the other say israel is internationally isolated and hated. nations are notoriously terrible at forcing each other to do anything but israel gets plenty of blame (as it should). hamas’ human rights violations against israelis are often discussed in the west (and fairly often justified) but its human rights violations against Palestinians are ignored

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Anonymous #2 11w

and perhaps the most glaring oversight is nobody talks about how countries like the US, Iran, and Qatar have been manipulating this conflict for their own benefit for decades

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Anonymous #1 11w

You fight an invading force. Israelis invaded their homes and murdered their children. They still are. Look at the settlements in the West Bank. It’s modern day colonialism. Native Americans fought American settlers, France fought invading Germans, do you know what the French resistance did? Yet they aren’t demonized like native Americans or Palestinians.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Arabs had the opportunity for peace in 1947 by accepting a UN Partition Plan, basically splitting the land in half. Jews accepted it, Arabs rejected it, declared war and lost. For decades they have continued launching rockets into Israel and pushing for their demands through terrorist acts

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Anonymous #2 11w

and it is complicated. international law is complicated

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

With this logic, you can’t defend what Hamas did on 10/7. It’s logically impossible.

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

i mean i agree with all those things? idk why you think i dont

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Anonymous #2 11w

except the last sentence

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

i have no interest in defending bibi’s other coalition partners because i think they’re complicit but it’s all politics. not so much “support” as “find it profitable”. and nobody’s had the chance to vote for 4 years

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Anonymous #2 11w

Maybe israelís should riot about not having a vote instead of rioting about not being able to rape a Palestinian. 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

they been protesting bibi’s gov every week for years, whatever wack social media page you get your news from just doesn’t show you those ones

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I mean, you said it yourself. The things you’re describing, Hamas did on 10/7 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous stoner22 11w

Israel is having an election on October 27. They take place every 4 years.

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