Anonymous OP 4w

arguably also jesus

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Anonymous #2 4w

I’m talking about ritual deaths

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Anonymous #2 4w

But yes there is no more spirituality in the world now which used to be common when indigenous religions were widespread. The abstract god of Christianity and Islam really changed things.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

No I’d say ritual sacrifice in the americas was very different to the religious wars and oppressive killing in the old world. Old Testament stories have individual instances of human sacrifice but I think ancient Greece is the only society that we can compare. My point is that indigenous Americans had a different view on death than we do and it was more acceptable for someone’s life to be forcefully ended than it is now.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Lmao dude careful don’t woke yourself into supporting human sacrifice. It’s okay to say it was wrong for premodern American cultures to kill people for their religion.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

People dying to bigotry would count as oppressive killing which has been standard across all large civilizations for all of history

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Anonymous OP 4w

Okay.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

Okay but if they live their whole lives knowing that they’ll go to their version of an afterlife after death then who are we to judge from our perspective of is there a heaven or not

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Anonymous OP 4w

You’re an idiot.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

Like another example of this is the Indian caste system where since they believe in reincarnation the lower people that get oppressed get reborn into an upper class

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

You need to expand your worldview and perspectives

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Anonymous OP 4w

So If a little Christian boy was told he’d go to heaven after being ritually sacrificed on his 18th birthday, lived luxuriously until then, and then died horribly, you wouldn’t have any room to judge?

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Anonymous OP 4w

No my worldview is plenty expanded it’s just your logic is horrible and makes no sense.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

Well that wasn’t a widespread belief in Christianity so it wouldn’t happen

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Anonymous OP 4w

And if it was?

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Anonymous OP 4w

Then it’d be okay, by your logic we shouldn’t judge? Thats stupid cmon

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Anonymous OP 4w

Don’t be dumb.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

It wouldn’t make sense for ritual sacrifice because what are they sacrificing to?? Christian god is abstract. Human beliefs and culture are too complex for these kinds of hypotheticals

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Anonymous OP 4w

There are literally examples of human sacrifice to Yahweh in the Bible what the fuck do you mean

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Anonymous OP 4w

You YOURSELF mentioned the binding of Isaac, you already KNOW that Christians were willing to sacrifice for their god and now you’re actively changing your entire perspective on a whim

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

I’m not denying it happened but Christianity changed very drastically after the execution of Christ so it wouldn’t make any sense today amongst any of the denominations present

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

While in India where they still follow indigenous religions things that we see as abhorrent like ritual cannibalism still occur in some sects

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Anonymous OP 4w

Right, but your support of human sacrifice shouldn’t rely on whether or not it’s culturally acceptable.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

So again yes it really does depend on the religion and if THEY see it as acceptable

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Anonymous OP 4w

Yeah I would argue ritual cannibalism is probably wrong. Unless the person isn’t killed or seriously disabled. I don’t actually care about the morality of eating another person, personally. But that’s just a specific quirk I have.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

If you’re irreligious you shouldn’t base your worldview off Protestant Christian perspectives on death

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Anonymous OP 4w

I don’t.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I base it off my belief in what happens after death. Which is nothing. Ergo ritual sacrifice is stealing from the person who is sacrificed.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

Having a black/white worldview on death is Christian thing

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

Okay that’s your belief so respect other beliefs as well even if they’re drastically different or you end up with colonization

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Anonymous OP 4w

Okay. Let’s say tomorrow a Christian denomination is created that believes in ritual sacrifice and cannibalism. You’d logically have to be cool with that, then, right?

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Anonymous OP 4w

Also you can believe something is wrong without colonizing an entire country you fucking moron.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

No because then thats no longer Christianity, its not an indigenous religion with basis in history either its just a cult.

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Anonymous OP 4w

You realize creating a belief system in your head where ritual sacrifice is only okay if brown people do it is racist right?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4w

White celts in Ireland and Iberia also practiced it, was wiped out by colonization

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Anonymous OP 4w

Then I guess you’re just weird with a deeply inconsistent ideology and morality.

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Anonymous OP 4w

And dumb.

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