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justinian

Building huge Soviet style apartments in every city might not be to everyone’s taste, but it definitely beats homelessness and a rent crisis. There is no reason not to build them!
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Anonymous 18h

Yeah this has always been a really stupid argument from people. I don’t care if the apartments are ugly, I’d infinitely take them over people being homeless. When viewed, I don’t see it as depressing, I see peoples homes there

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Anonymous 18h

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Anonymous 18h

I ♥️ brutalist apartments

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Anonymous 18h

No reason? It’s hard for me to take any proposal seriously when its proponents haven’t thought through the very real tradeoffs. The soviet union still struggled with homelessness even after criminalizing it and the conditions in soviet housing were abhorrent.

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Anonymous 18h

As long as they’re safe and down lower property value I’ll support it

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Anonymous 17h

The fact they may not work and end up sitting empty is a good reason. Building housing isn’t going to solve the homelessness crisis, believe it or not. Esp if it’s government housing without competition, as it doesn’t really bring rent down, just devalues surrounding land. We already have programs that just took homeless people and gave them homes. A large number of them returned to the streets anyway. We have enough empty apartments/homes for the entire homeless population in the US.

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Anonymous 14h

The airflow in those things is atrocious. Super unhealthy. There has to be better designs for housing.

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Anonymous 18h

Brutalist architecture made East Germany lose so much of its beauty. I’m glad at least Poland reversed it

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

Oh no people have homes now and my view is ruined, how tragic :(

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

I’m so sorry 😢😢 I can’t believe affordable housing is being built at the expense of your feelings :(((( fuck off

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 18h

Y’all genuinely insufferable lmao. Sacrificing qualitative beauty isn’t necessary. Poland got rid of their brutalist housing and their homelessness rate remained entirely stable

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 18h

No worse view than people being housed. Nothing makes me more depressed

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 18h

I thought the first sentence was for me 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 18h

THATS WHAT IM SAYYINNGG

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

Maybe if we build them in like the South or Southwest they could be painted light blue and pink and red or something to fit the vibe

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Anonymous replying to -> justinian 18h

Yes exactly!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

Fair point, we should get rid of American suburbs first and foremost then because they objectively have ruined more natural beauty than Soviet style apartments

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Anonymous replying to -> justinian 18h

Ur chill Justinian. Occasionally you make points that I think are stupid but I think you have a great heart

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 18h

I mean if we’re gonna strawman the fuck out of this that’s whatever😭😭. We’re talking a constantly expanding urban area across the US vs millennia old society and culture that’s shaped architecture

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

Yeah this isn’t a debate I do not respect you

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 18h

Wouldn’t expect anything less from you people

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

“You people”

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 18h

Ill take it :3 ❤️

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 18h

wdym by that?

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Anonymous replying to -> justinian 18h

They could never make me hate you

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 17h

As opposed to conditions without housing, which I’m sure were a lot better I’m not saying Soviet bloc apartments were perfectly run - far from it. But a house is still better than no house

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 17h

What we don’t have is food security, accessible healthcare, affordable high quality mental health services, affordable rehab facilities, strong community support centers, plentiful education centers that give people the skills to live alone and run a household, or a cultural sense of belonging to unify communities into making people want to stay a part of them. Building homes is nice sure. But it doesn’t solve a damn thing

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 17h

Wdym it doesn’t solve a thing? If people have no home, getting a job is substantially more difficult. You have no place to shower, no address to have stuff sent to, you can’t have as many belongings because you have nowhere to store them (and I’m talking essential belongings like clothes)

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 17h

It helps, yes. That’s undeniable. But it shifts the burden substantially. It helps give them safe rest and clean showers but does it address the gap in resume? Lack of employable skills? Lack of education and degrees? Where’s that help? Where’s the business casual clothing (if they aren’t lucky enough to have a non profit donating them nearby), the interview skills, and internet access for applications? A home is one very small part

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

“You people” stop acting like you were respectful in the first place dawg. You started this with “yall genuinely insufferable” you set the terms for respect. Don’t cry now

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 17h

Yes but how do you expect them to be able to get those skills if they don’t have a place to go to? If someone is working towards a GED, having a place to study would go a long way. Having a place where you can read up about interview tips or apply is important, such as a local public library ( hint: those are also socialist ). And it’s not like the gap in a resume is going to be better if it’s able to just keep on getting longer I’m not saying housing is this magic cure, but they’re helpful

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