Anonymous #1 3d

That is not at all close to what I meant. I care immensely, I just chose to be part of the Republican Party because I want to vote against their extremism in primaries and so moderate republicans can win out

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Anonymous #2 3d

I personally think I best identify as an independent but I want to vote in primaries and live in NY so I need to be in a party. I do want to be a republican necessarily but I didn’t want trump so I joined the party to vote against him in the primaries. I also am not a fan of what the dems did with just hand picking Kamala when there were other candidates that could have beaten her in a real primary so i respectfully will not be joining dems until they show they can follow the rules again

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Anonymous #3 3d

I respectfully disagree. There are a decent number who don’t identify or capitulate at all MAGA. Republican congressmen have but the constituents haven’t. I am a republican that did not vote trump and never would. I also vote across party lines quite a bit because I am not a true “republican” in the sense that I’m not very conservative like the rest of

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Anonymous OP 3d

Also I appreciate the civility you have, I not very common these days

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Anonymous OP 3d

Also for context I am 19 so that was my first election voting and I am not a lifelong republican either. Because I do agree that the majority of the party has gone in a very wrong direction

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Anonymous OP 3d

I’m also in NY. You may want to consider changing parties. 1)Harris was ass and it was undemocratic to skip primaries, but there are levels to things and objectively the Republican Party is aiming to destroy democratic systems and install an authoritarian/fascist regime. Like people are being disappeared in unmarked vehicles for speaking Spanish. By registering Republican after these events you’re giving them mandate to continue.

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Anonymous #2 3d

2) honestly the democrats here are mostly just moderate conservatives running as democrats because they know they wont be elected otherwise (see: Cuomo, Hochul, etc.). If you’re looking for “old fashioned” Republicans that’s who you want. I don’t like these guys to be clear, but they are the ones in the area who fit the bill you describe

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Anonymous #2 3d

I just think joining republicans instead of democrats to protest democrats “not following the rules” is kind of insane when republicans are refusing to swear in elected officials, openly ignoring laws and court orders, ignoring due process, and publicly gerrymandering along racial lines to get more seats is not logically consistent and will not achieve your goal. Not to sound harsh.

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Anonymous #2 3d

I agree that the republicans actions have been very bad but by voting against them and for the candidates who are not like that but instead normal republicans from before trump I don’t think I am giving them a mandate. So I definitely do consider it, everyday, I think that the dems are the lesser of two evils but I fundamentally oppose many of the actual views of the democratic platform outside of the trump issue. I keep faith that the American system will deal with things and restore “order”

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Anonymous #2 3d

I completely agree that it sounds weird but sometimes we need different solutions, plus I don’t want there to effectively be a one party system once trump is gone. I think that having a realistic Republican Party is necessary for the system to work.

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Anonymous OP 3d

Like I said, I’d really encourage you to reconsider because while I see where you’re coming from, on the ground it’s not effective.

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Anonymous #2 3d

I think that’s a little inaccurate, the dems who are moderate are still quite liberal. They push for rather large expansions of expenses that conservatives wouldn’t go for. I also hate cuomo and Hochul. They are the perfect representation of the Democratic Party also having major issues and corruption (even though the republicans have more rn)

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Anonymous OP 3d

Personally? The Republican Party is beyond saving at this point. Once you have this level of accepting antidemocratic and illegal actions it’s beyond redemption. We need new parties. I’m very lefty but would welcome an actual moderate or center right party. I just don’t think that can be the Republican Party atp.

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Anonymous OP 3d

NY republicans 🤝🏻 NY Leftists Hating Cuomo and Hochul

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Anonymous #2 3d

But yeah everyone in NY is corrupt n Tammany Hall never ended imo. That’s a whole different story tho

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Anonymous #2 3d

You might be right but I think joining the dems isn’t extremely different either especially if I’m voting for some democrats in general elections anyways. Also I am not in the city and didn’t vote in that race but cuomo and mamdani in that race are more issues I have with the democrats here in NY. Not that sliwa is good I just despise him a lot less

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Anonymous #2 3d

Maybe it is beyond saving but I am trying to make sure that it can come back to reason when the dust settles. If I don’t make a difference then so be it but fighting for democracy is always worth it

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Anonymous #2 3d

Bipartisanship at its finest lol

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Anonymous #2 3d

Sorry not to be too wordy but I’d push back on the increased expenses thing. They both have been absolutely GUTTING SUNY funding. Same thing happened to CUNY. Social benefits have not tended to rise enough compared to cost of living. And much of increased spending has been for prisons and police, typically conservative endeavors. They have really consistently neoliberal policies. NY spends more than many states on social services but that has more to do with the US being underfunded

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Anonymous #2 3d

Yes those are facts. They spend a lot on things republicans would also go for (in my opinion because they are just nec) but also have spent about $700 million in the past year on affordable housing and environmental projects. Both of which have had very little impact and is money that republicans wouldn’t have spent in that way

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Anonymous OP 3d

(The word was supposed to be necessary not nec lol

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Anonymous OP 3d

Also for clarification I believe suny funding needs to be handled better, millions go to waste because of useless programs when ones that have high potential don’t get enough attention

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