Anonymous #1 14w

Data provided by CBP

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Anonymous #2 14w

The statistics are 62k illegal aliens were released into the US in may of last year, this past may it was 0 a drop of 100% the 93% drop comes from encounters being roughly 117k last year of may and 8k this past may

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Anonymous OP 14w

💀

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Anonymous #4 14w

What?

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Anonymous OP 14w

They can claim whatever they want to. Don’t you think it’d make sense for them to report 0, even if the actual number wasn’t 0? So they can claim they’re succeeding If this was 3rd party data, it’d be a little more trustworthy

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Anonymous #1 14w

I don’t know what you’re really looking for, but heres some corroborating data from the migrant policy institute, that covers migration all over the world. But as a general rule, .gov websites have much more accurate research on topics and .orgs typically aren’t accepted as valid sources (on things like academic papers, or research)

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Anonymous OP 14w

Nooooo, they used to be that way. Since Trump has been in office, .gov websites have routinely spread misinformation and propaganda. That’s not even mentioning the thousands of publicly available datasets that have been permanently wiped from existence

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Anonymous #1 14w

What you’re doing is called being delusional, Under the Biden administration they over exaggerated the job report numbers by upwards of 800k and then was revised, that hasn’t happened under Trump and you can’t say “they lied” just because you feel like it. They report numbers and they are consistent with reporting, if they aren’t then it’s investigated and revised (like what happened numerous times under Bidens admin.

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Anonymous OP 14w

I don’t really trust any .gov when the DoD was posting AI images of the parade crowd

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Anonymous #6 14w

Please, go ahead and provide the image…

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Anonymous OP 14w

So you already know that this stuff can be falsified. What happens if the people in power (who have the ability to order investigations) are the ones who want the data falsified? I promise you, I’m not being delusional. I used to rely on federal data sets for my thesis research. It’s my job to understand data.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Its your job to understand data but you only rely on third party sources rather than the people doing the arrests?

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Anonymous OP 14w

they provided contradicting numbers, zero released in, but only down 93%?

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Anonymous #1 14w

And again ICE has been pretty fair in it’s reporting, honestly showing higher numbers when Biden was president, then showing lower numbers when Trump was president, you can tell its nonpartisan because they wouldn’t be showing the Data that says Obama deported more illegal immigrants than Trump

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Anonymous OP 14w

and jesus christ the people doing the arrests? trustworthy? are we going to act like thats trustworthy?

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Anonymous OP 14w

"ice is nonpartisan" "higher numbers then, lower numbers now" ........... do i have to spell it out for you?

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Anonymous #7 14w

I already explained it’s from 62k to 0 down 100% and the 93% number is the *encounters 117k last May to 8k this past May. Which is a 93% decrease.

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Anonymous OP 14w

they reduced encounters? by 93%? encounters? please id love to hear what an encounter is because it sounds like theyre either using lethal force or have some incredible force field up

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Anonymous OP 14w

Yes. Actually, it’s called reasonable prudence when the sources and nature of this data is hidden behind some propagandized narrative

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Anonymous #1 14w

"the government wouldnt do propaganda! look! the numbers used to be different! surely that means its the same reporting!"

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Anonymous #7 14w

An encounter is when the Border Patrol apprehends someone at the border. And yes border crossing attempts/encounters are down 93%

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Anonymous OP 14w

You understand that they could get these numbers by: *not arresting anyone at the border* “Oh look! Encounters are down 93%, and releases are down 100%!!” *sips coffee as they let hundreds of migrants waltz in under the guise they’re not*

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Anonymous #1 14w

The sources aren’t hidden they provide monthly updates on their numbers and keep all data available

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Anonymous OP 14w

Where are those numbers coming from?

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Anonymous OP 14w

so... border patrol is apprending 93% less people at the border.... and theres 62,000 less people being released in, and less people getting by... sorry somethings not adding up here. theyre not catching as many, theres not as many going in.

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Anonymous OP 14w

usually when i see a graph just suddenly drop to zero and stay at zero, i assume somethings gone horridly wrong in graph making

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Anonymous OP 14w

Who is responsible for maintaining the dataset? How do they manage to compile all the different data points from across our southern border? How accurately and precisely is that data collected? What was the nature of the encounters? What was the length of the encounters? These are all things we can’t see

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Anonymous #1 14w

buh buh most transparent administration!

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Anonymous #1 14w

You’rer actually being willfully ignorant, this is from CBP they’re being transparent with their numbers. It even says CBS.gov at the top also yes encounters means that border arrests were around 8k in may down 93% from last may

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Anonymous OP 14w

"theyre being transparent with their numbers" and norad is being transparent with how many houses santa has delivered presents to

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Anonymous OP 14w

Whereas: a third party may be able to compile estimates of net migrant flow rate by analyzing the inflow into sanctuary cities. This, hopefully, will corroborate the narrative that encounters are down and nobody is coming in. But, it could do the opposite.

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Anonymous OP 14w

the number being a flat zero tho is so improbable that the possibility of false reporting is quite likely

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Anonymous #7 14w

Thank the heavens for norad, I almost stayed up too late when Santa was about to pass over my house. If I was awake he wouldn’t give me presents!!

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Anonymous #1 14w

You’re all genuine fucking idiots.

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Anonymous OP 14w

"youre stupid" i say with tears streaming down my face. my parents told me santa isnt real and sometimes people lie (a lot)

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Anonymous #1 14w

Good think you don’t trust the CDC or the NIH about numbers of infections in the country, good thing you don’t trust the FBI for crime statistics. Good thing you don’t watch the weather report to tell you how hot it is outside.

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Anonymous OP 14w

No, I’m just not the best at explaining my reasoning. I’d be willing to wager my understanding of pretty much anything (besides maybe your specific field of expertise) far exceeds yours

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Anonymous OP 14w

"these people have radically changed how they operate and are providing inconsistent and contradictory data and conclusions" I don't trust "these people show findings, are peer reviewed, open to repeating (but not ignorant questions), havent changed, and consistently provide substantive, real results that you can feel (like medicine working, data about diseases that is consistent!)" I do trust

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Anonymous #1 14w

I’d be willing to bet it isn’t if you don’t trust any source, where do you think people get data sets from?? They determine the real data from independent journalists?? You make no sense whatsoever

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Anonymous OP 14w

Well you see, NOAA has weather station data publicly available, you can see the exact readings for each sensor. The FBI has case reports documenting everything about a case. The CDC collects data from clinics and hospitals, and provides that dataset and its sources in a very UX friendly way (or, at least, they used to up until this January)

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Anonymous OP 14w

"good thing you dont trust the FBI for crime statistics" well the fbi didnt just get a new leader who said hed eliminate crime and then fbi crime data went to zero and stayed there while he said theyre doing less, so yea i trust that a little more

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Anonymous #1 14w

And the CBP collects data from law enforcement officers you dullard… you can literally go to their website or LOOK AT THE FUCKING SCREENSHOT I SENT AND IT SHOWS YOU THEIR SOURCE

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Anonymous #7 14w

And that gives credence to them being honest, CBP didn’t say they’d get rid of all crime either.

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Anonymous OP 14w

You make them sound like a swarm of locusts… there’s a little secret about stats you may not know, there is NEVER 100% if anything, there’s always error, what’s more likely happening is records just aren’t being properly taken or filed. Would make sense with how many federal workers got fired.

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Anonymous OP 14w

TRUMP SAYS HES GOING TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND DEPORT ALL OF THEM. NUMBERS DROP 93% AND TO NEAR ZERO. IF FBI SAID TWO CRIMES HAPPENED NATIONWIDE PER MONTH, IM GOING TO SAY THATS INCORRECT

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Anonymous OP 14w

Their sources aren’t publicly available we cannot access the data sets they mentioned (at least, as far as I can see)

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Anonymous #7 14w

HE DIDN’T FUCKING SAY HED DEPORT ALL OF THEM YOU MORON YOU’RE SO FUCKING SLOW THE DATA IS BACKED UP BY SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT WHICH WOULD TAKE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CORROBORATING TOGETHER WITH NO WHISTLE BLOWERS SAYING THE NUMBERS ARENT ACCURATE THEY GET NUMBERS FROM PERSONAL REPORTS JUST LIKE THE FBI YOURE SO FUCKING STUPUD

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Anonymous #1 14w

You can literally check their website, you can check the congressional Research service CRS.gov or look at the committee on Homeland security, but because you don’t believe your OWN EYES because of some weird bias against data collection, there’s no point and it’ll never be available to you.

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Anonymous OP 14w

You should ask the opposition what their conditions are for government sources to be valid, that way there’s at least an opportunity to bridge the gap.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Based on “trust me bro” data

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Anonymous OP 14w

this still doesn’t explain the reported number dropping to zero. not single digits, but ZERO from 63k in only a year. That drop is staggering and near impossible

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Anonymous OP 14w

As somebody who works for the federal government rn I can tell you my Dept is getting bombarded by orders to spread propaganda. This department is surely getting the same. This is propaganda and civil servants are being ordered by Trump and his admin to lie to you.

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Anonymous #13 14w

reminder that their entire information literacy strategy derives from some fake rule they learned for a 9th grade research paper

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Anonymous #15 14w

consider that somebody taught you this “general rule” because they teach 150 students a day and don’t have time to evaluate the context of every information source each one uses in every single research project, but still knows you are likely to cite an AI overview or the top hit on google when given the chance

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Anonymous #15 14w

Real talk I do think OP is beyond help but I think it’s important to say lest other people get ideas. And ICE needs to be held accountable for being so enthusiastic about being a secret police and propaganda machine. As someone from a division that’s actually been pretty vocal about resisting, at least below the appointee level, it’s just extra gross to see.

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