US Politics on Sidechat | Seriously though, if there is a standard education requirement for American children, shouldn’t there be an equivalent for all immigrants? Just as a matter of principle; the technicalities can be figured out later.

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Seriously though, if there is a standard education requirement for American children, shouldn’t there be an equivalent for all immigrants? Just as a matter of principle; the technicalities can be figured out later.

Anonymous 2w

Yes, I want to try to figure out the technicalities for this myself actually! I think it would be very beneficial for immigrants to be educated on a similar standard to better be able to understand the American culture and systems! It’s hard though because most of the countries people want/need to move from don’t offer education like we have in the U.S. In fact, a lot of those countries and the people who want to leave aren’t in the best financial positions.

Anonymous 2w

Yes and I think a reasonable minimum could be whatever the worst performing state’s averages are

Anonymous 2w

Something I was thinking was asking education majors to volunteer or ‘student teach’ these people. It can count toward the hours they need for student teaching in a way while also educating (possible) citizens! I say possible because I’m not exactly sure how testing or being accepted would go.. please let me know any flaws this may have or details that should be added!

Anonymous 2w

How would that even look though? Putting adult age immigrants in like 4th grade classrooms to make sure they know how to do two-digit multiplication?

Anonymous

#1 2w

And reevaluate every 4 years I guess since that’s how long it takes to go through the 4 grades in high school, so it’d be changing with every new set of graduates from whenever it was first implemented

Anonymous

#2 2w

Just make it part of the citizenship test and get rid of some of the unnecessary or outdated questions that even Americans probably couldn’t answer

Anonymous

#2 2w

Yeah lmao they have to work and shit to survive, unless the government wants to give them a stipend and housing to survive through schooling

Anonymous

#1 2w

Or have it just be another part like the ACT or SAT has two parts

Anonymous

#3 2w

It’s going to be hard, but I believe if people from different fields and strengths come together, we can make it happen!

Anonymous

#3 2w

Exactly my consideration, since immigration is here to stay, let’s at least be adults about how best to facilitate the process

Anonymous

#1 2w

So… you’re suggesting that immigrants need to meet an “education requirement” whatever that entails, yet you’re also suggesting that they’re able to pass a test on American civics that you don’t think Americans could pass? Do you feel confident that all adult Americans could pass even like a 3rd or 4th grade math test? I don’t, that’s for sure

Anonymous

#4 2w

Or have it more in the style of night college classes, or even an online curriculum that can be studied and reliably tested either before entry or during the process of citizenship.

Anonymous

OP 2w

Woah woah before entry? So what if their country doesn’t have high standards for education, theyre just fucked?

Anonymous

#2 2w

Doesn’t matter, we can hold varying standards on citizens and non-citizens, but I see your point and would argue that the standards as a whole should be raised

Anonymous

#4 2w

lol I said before or during, but the before is more for immigrants who can. Regardless though, if their country doesn’t have high standards, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t.

Anonymous

OP 2w

Didn’t you just say in your post though that immigrants should have to meet an “equivalent” education requirement

Anonymous

#2 2w

I meant we could place a more strict grading minimum, but the education would cover the same scope that Americans receive. In reality we can demand whatever we want, but the bare minimum would be an equivalent to what is expected of American children.

Anonymous

#4 2w

I feel like this response turns the argument into a Straw Man and adds some Appeal to Emotion with the wording. It might be better to address the OP’s idea directly so the discussion stays constructive.