also im fully aware Israel is lying about the whole “in 2 months Iran will have nukes” stuff (which they have been for decades) but if an ally is at odds, what do you expect the country to do? we didn’t bluff, we showed our hand, and now everyone will fall into line just like they were suppose to.
Im always just wondering why we’re allowed to have nukes, Israel can have nukes that they dont even disclose as ordered under the UN agreement, Russia is allowed to have nukes, Pakistan can have nukes, EVERYONE has nukes. But when Iran, the nation that has been regionally peaceful other than theyre own internal regime issues, cant have nukes to defend themselves from the AGGRESSOR Israel, and cant have nukes even though TRUMP was the one who tore up the Obama nuclear agreement with Iran.
really confused as to why people are acting like what was done was bad? Iran had confirmed nuclear sites and could be potentially building nuclear weapons. we didn’t hit a bunch of innocent people, we just hit the nuclear facilities and got out. peace is shown through strength not bluff. the world needed to see that. This prevented WW3 WHICH has been brewing for years now? Russia pulled out of their agreement with Iran. Why? because we hit Iran. This was needed, stop fear mongering pls
Iran hasn’t initiated of escalated a conflict in the last 300 years. Israel has 5 times in the last year. The existence of WMDS being developed in Iran has 0 PROOF and negotiations regarding development were going to happen right before Trump unilaterally withdrew. This exact same thing happened with Iraq in 2005. This is a completely unnecessary escalation that was already being figured out diplomatic until his dumbass figured it’s more important that we start a war and aim for a regime change.
i’m aware of the will and want for a regime change and endless war Isreal is trying to pull America into, but what you aren’t understanding they did have nuclear weapons plants, and they did make threats against us and our allies? Trump sees this, and said we aren’t fighting a war for Israel. We have the bunker buster bombs, they don’t. We went in, took care of a potential threat and got out? I’m still not understanding why this is bad?
1. Once again, there is ZERO evidence that weapons were being developed. All information gathered has indicated they were nuclear ENERGY plants. 2. Even on the chance that Iran was developing weapons, the whole point of having nuclear weapons is literally not to use them. Every country that has nukes uses them as a deterrent because almost every country is at least smart enough to not engulf the planet in war. If Trump really cared about denuclearization he would have remained in any of the
programs with those supposed objectives he’s claiming on operating under. Why do you think nobody has gone for Pakistan like they have Iraq and Iran? They were lucky enough to start a nuclear weapons program early enough and under the radar enough that they are now capable of defending themselves. They don’t use them as anything other than a deterrent.
idk how about have a fucking conversation about rejoining the deal without being a dickhead like he has been to every other foreign leader instead of acting like he has a big dick and bomb them. “women are too emotional to lead” but women typically tend to have conversations first
Claiming nukes are “just deterrents” doesn’t hold in a region where proxy wars are LITERALLY the norm. A nuclear-armed Iran would boost its support for terrorist organizations and increase the risk of a regional arms race or worse escalation. Deterrence only works with stable & rational leaders and the iranian regime isn’t that.
the deal had clauses that would eventually let iran resume nuclear activities, ignored Iran’s ballistic missile development and regional terrorism, and allowed weak inspections with delayed access to sensitive sites. stop acting like you know stuff when you don’t lil bro. the deal was terrible and made no sense to stay apart of.
finding middle ground between the middle east and the usa… in 60 days… the middle east… and the usa… middle ground… yes yes it is very easy to find that and start a plan yes yes my bad, I thought we were talking about the usa and denmark finding middle ground like that’s hard as FUUUUCKKKKK
dude, negotiations don’t have to mean a done deal, say all be all, we’re on the same page. maybe a start would be “we both don’t want war”????? Trump came to the table, they didn’t. the EU and American intelligence said there was a potential threat. we waited another week, they AGAIN didn’t show up. so we hit a spot with bunker busters to wipe a potential threat. what are you arguing dude. this was far from a bad move
If you don’t understand that escalating a conflict with a major regional power who have several superpower alliances, which could trigger potential treaty obligations, increasing the risk of global economic catastrophe if Iran now shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, is only going to cause so many more problems for us, as opposed to diplomatic plans that we chose to step out of and strongarm instead, then I don’t know what to tell you.
there were better ways to go about it, that’s what im saying. “resolving” things with bombs isn’t and shouldn’t be the only way we handle things because its not gonna help. idc if they may be incapable of doing stuff or wouldn’t do things because we would destroy them. 60 days isn’t enough for an entire country to come together and figure out how to speak to the country that has been absolutely horrific to them for years and years and years. whatever intel they have I genuinely also believe
I get your points so much lol I don’t think anyone should have nuclear weapons in my opinion, but they’re gonna have them regardless of what I want. I think their thinking is Iran is unpredictable, but I feel like we lowkey made them this way from what I have read (will admit I should research more!) everyone is so scared that everyone has nuclear because they know the moment someone uses one, everyone will nuke everyone and everyone will die, so why the fuck do we even have them LOL