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ICE is not acting like 1930s Germany. 1930’s Germany was acting like 1910s America (specifically, by studying Jim Crow and the Black Codes). ICE is acting like America. We are responsible.
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Anonymous 3w

Someone send the meme of America copying Germany copying America

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Anonymous 3w

Bro we put ppl in concentration camps and dropped 2 atomic bombs and killed over 300k innocent civilians 😭

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Anonymous 3w

We can learn from Nuremberg

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Anonymous 3w

i have said this time and time again

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Anonymous 3w

I agree but I do think a lot of the right is currently copying Hitler specifically

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Anonymous 3w

Glad to hear we are being responsible that conforts me

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Anonymous 3w

Ive been waiting for people to realize this

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Anonymous 2w

Remember: Hitler was inspired by America

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Anonymous 3w

This made me laugh out loud

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Anonymous 2w

The idea that Nazi Germany was copying America is absurd. Whatever minor inspiration someone may have gotten they were up to something exponentially darker

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Anonymous 3w

I didn’t vote for him

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Anonymous 3w

I wish it was acting like 1930s Germany

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Anonymous 3w

We are not responsible for the Nazis lmao, we were also not the only people who did those behaviours nor were we the worst offenders. Hitler just wanted to delegitimise us because we were the only country that could solo them. He was much more inspired by Turkey and the Armenian Genocide.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

The correct answer is, he had multiple inspirations. American segregation practice, Turkish genocide strategy, Soviet purges and pogroms, British and French imperial expansion, all wrapped into one with German industrial efficiency.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

But it’s obvious why there are parallels to Nazis 1. Because they’re the nazis 2. Because World War II is still in our memory as a nation. My grandma still tells me about the war, obviously it’s a massive thing in history books. Etc

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

He literally wrote he was inspired by American segregation. He actually even PRAISED us for establishing a pure race system. He did have other places he took aspects from but as the other person said, there can be multiple sources of inspiration.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

What 4 & 5 said are correct but also you know it’s the Soviet Union that defeated Nazi Germany. They killed far more Nazis than any other country & also lost the most troops to Germany as well. Obviously other countries like the U.S. helped & played a role but the whole solo thing you said is ridiculous.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

Correction, the pogroms happened under the tsars. If you did a pogrom in the Soviet Union you got sent to a gulag.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 3w

the soviets only won because hitler was too proud to admit his soldiers should bring winter uniforms. he kept them in their summer uniforms and yes, the soviets did burn everything so the nazis couldn't use it, but that doesn't mean they could've kept up that fight. look at d-day. although the germans didn't know americans would specifically be there, it was heavily fortified and they lit em up but they won.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 3w

That was not the only reason

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

except that none of the people who actually financed the nazi project were tried, only the political class. the industrial capitalists who profited off of the slave camps turned extermination camps were actually compensated for their loss of “assets” during allied bombing campaigns

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3w

Yes, he wrote that to discredit us. He also claimed to be a socialist, do you believe that too?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

I think it was the biggest factor, yes. the nazis flew through russia and had they had winter garments I think they would've taken moscow. don't get me wrong, the soviets did put up a hell of a fight

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 3w

And it didn’t matter 🩷

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

Thing is, our ww2 concentration camps weren’t as bad as Germany’s. They were bad, but they got enough calories and weren’t shot for sport like the Germans did

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

Nope.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 3w

Soviets had same shortages of uniforms as the Nazis, which came down to a logistical problem something the Nazis always had throughout multiple campaigns

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 3w

In addition, the Soviets were always going to eventually win, without or without allied help. The impact of lend lease was far less than Stalin made it out to be, and the contribution to the western front, while massive, was not always necessary. Basically Mr.stalin would’ve just sent more soldiers and eventually take Berlin

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

If we didn’t drop the bombs, even more people would have died. It was an unfortunate but necessary move to end the war.

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 3w

That’s just not true and for the second bomb, I think they knew it (not just in retrospect)

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 3w

Then why was only 1/7 of the top generals for it at the time

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

There are many analysis / videos about it but they’re like each an hour long And yes it is still debated by historians But the main reason why they surrendered was the societs

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

It was a combination of everything and to point at one reason for Japanese surrender ignores the other parts. Also at tht time it was civilian administration and military. Soviet declaration of war heavily weighed on the military not so much for the civilian and the bombs were the reverse.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

If he acted like a socialist then yes I would have. Even if he wrote it to discredit us you have to admit there are stark similarities, no?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3w

Not especially? Not in the Jim Crow South, not a whole lot of similarities to Nazi Germany, since the Americans didn’t try to deport all the black people nor did they round them up into concentration camps. Again, he was just trying to legitimise his position and delegitimise us.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 3w

They flew through Russia because Stalin sat there for weeks with his thumb up his ass when Hitler betrayed him. The lack of winter preparedness is overblown with the Nazis. It was the Soviet access to American equipment and the Allies engaging on other fronts that pushed the Germans out of Russia.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

That’s not the part that the modeled after Jim Crow, the part they modeled after that is the Nuremberg laws

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Anonymous replying to -> stonesfisch 3w

You’re using the old “Russia used human wave tactics” myth. It absolutely was lend lease that saved the Soviets. Their equipment was, in every single instance, fucking awful. They would’ve been creamed like spinach if not for the arms and armour donated by America. Russia was never gonna win the war with the T-34 lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

The T-34 literally won WWII what are you talking about 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

We were neither the first nor the last people to come up with laws like that. Again, he knew America would be his only enemy so he tried to legitimise himself using us. People have been making discriminatory laws of that nature since as long as laws have existed. Shit, there were basically Nuremberg Laws against Jews in England before Columbus even came out his daddy’s garlic-flavoured dick

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

Lend lease contributed very little to the Soviet War effort. And yes the human wave myth is false, propagandized by films such as enemy at the gates. However, while higher estimates place lend lease equaling to 10% of total Soviet production, 2% of total lend lease was delivered in 41, 14% in 42, 27% in 43, 35% in 44, and 21% in 45. Any sort of significant aid was supplied after the liberation of Stalingrad, well into the start of the collapse of the Germans. 1/2

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Anonymous replying to -> stonesfisch 3w

Without lend lease u wouldn’t see large offensives and counter attacks such as operation bagration, however u would still see offensives, just much smaller in scale, and at that point in the war the Soviets had such a significant advantage, it was going to be over, its just a question of when and how many lives lost 2/2

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

As much as I will glorify the Soviets, the t-34 was kinda shit. Quality control issues, cheap materials, poor quality welding. It was the Soviets response and they utilized it, however it was still a shit tank. At the end of the day Soviets still won over Germany so ig they had to do smt right

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Anonymous replying to -> stonesfisch 3w

The important metric for being a good tank is if it achieves war aims. The T-34 clearly did, and they could go toe to toe with the panzer, which took much more time and money to produce. A shit tank is one that can’t achieve its aims and is far too costly to produce, like the panzer.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

Sure, on the micro scale though it was shit. Ofc tank stats and armor doesn’t define a war, which much more reliant on production capabilities. On the macro it could be argued that the Soviets spent so much effort streamlining the tank and cutting corners that with a little bit extra cost you could have a more effective tank, smt smt opportunity costs. Buts it’s always a question of if. Well if my mom had balls she would be my dad, and honestly yea the won, and that’s all tht matters.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

It did not go toe to toe with the panzer effectively, it had a crazy high crew mortality rate, partially because it had terrible accuracy, terrible armor spalling, and nonexistent situational awareness

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Anonymous replying to -> stonesfisch 3w

They won in spite of the T-34 not because of it

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

No, the Germans lost WWII. The T-34 was a hindrance and was the worst tank of the Allies

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Anonymous replying to -> stonesfisch 3w

Nah, lend lease might’ve been small in number, but it was high in quality. Quality always beats quantity.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

Which is funny, cause the majority of lend lease was oil, food, trucks, and locomotives

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Anonymous replying to -> stonesfisch 3w

Good quality oil, good quality food, good quality trucks, and good quality locomotives, in addition to vehicles that were, without fail, praised by Soviet operators as vastly superior to their own in just about every factor, with comfort being the main one. If using an aircraft or tank is a chore like the T-34 or the Sturmovik, you’ll be tired by the time you even get to the fight.

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 2w

The primary reason for dropping nuclear bombs on japan was NOT to save american lives. the US government was much more worried about the societ union taking large parts of japan. Japan was ready to surrender to both the soviets and the US before the bombs dropped. the US wanted to be the only architects of a new japan.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

nuremberg let thousands of the worst nazis free and gave many of them stable employment for the rest of their lives.

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Anonymous replying to -> #21 2w

one of the main defenses of nazi’s in the nuremberg trials was them claiming they only copied the US. the united state’s camps were if anything more efficient. if i am wrong show me where the 100 million natives are and the 100 million more black americans who have been killed by our regime

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 2w

The united states didn't have death camps, gas chambers

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 2w

95-99 million of those natives you brought up died of smallpox which they were going to die from upon first contact anyway, there was no saving them

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 2w

They were claiming that because the US was trying them not because it was true

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 2w

The Nazi rise to power was caused by an economic collapse. If every single business in Germany was destroyed and their owners murdered, that would be worse than the conditions that caused Nazism and we would’ve had to do the same thing again in 20 years time.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 2w

Also 100 million black Americans is an insane number that is not supported by anything whatsoever considering there were less than 11 millions slaves that were ever brought to the new world for the entirety of the 400 years it was a thing, and the majority of that was not America, it was our colonial overlords in Europe

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Anonymous replying to -> #21 2w

I feel like this type of logic will kill your ability to see the connections between anything... You can make a valid comparison between two things without them being exactly the same

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