Anonymous #1 6d

I genuinely hope so. I mean most people are anti Israel & view Zionism negatively but our governments are the opposite still. We need to change that.

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Anonymous #1 6d

“I truly think” - STOP ✋. Thinking clearly isn’t working out for you nazi

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Anonymous #3 6d

Your comment would be funny if it weren’t in support of an ethno-state committing genocide and ethnic cleansing

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Anonymous #2 6d

No way y’all are actually this dense, ever think maybe they wouldn’t be doing so if Israel wasn’t actively trying to kill and displace them for decades to get their land? Not like Hezbollah or others can exactly go head to head with the IDF and US military in conventional conflict, so how exactly *would* you suggest that surrounding populations resist the colonialism and ethnic cleansing? Are they supposed to just roll over and take it?

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Anonymous #1 6d

I’m not trying to be funny. I genuinely think you need to stop thinking because it’s not working out well for you

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Anonymous #3 6d

Because if I stopped thinking I’d start supporting Israel?

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Anonymous #1 6d

No nazi

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Anonymous #1 6d

You are brainwashed and unable to think critically so thinking does you no good in your current state

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Anonymous #3 6d

Great arguments bub, lot of well reasoned coherent points

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Anonymous #4 6d

You can’t reason with a nazi

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Anonymous #3 6d

I’m not even against Israel existing, I am against genocide, ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, and entangling the US in foreign wars. If Israel didn’t do those things I wouldn’t even think about Israel

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Anonymous #4 6d

What does anyone in Lebanon need to resist at all? Can you name a time when Israel attacked a neighboring nation or insurgent group when it hadn’t either 1) attacked Israel first, or 2) signaled its intention to attack in conjunction with aggressive actions like expelling peacrkeepers, mobilizing troops and artillery near the Israeli border, or blockading Israel, etc. as was the case in 1967/1956? Seems like if you leave Israel alone they leave you alone. When was their last war with Jordan?

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Anonymous #2 6d

Ain’t no way you genuinely believe Israel only acts in self defense. Yeah you’re right Israel invades other countries, annexes territory, builds illegal settlements, snips children, etc all in the name of self defense

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Anonymous OP 6d

If you can just name an instance where there was a nationally coordinated military action that was unprovoked you could totally own me right now, instead you’re gonna yap some more and not actually give an example though.

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Anonymous #2 6d

Israel literally attacked Iran starting a full scale war in the region involving the U.S. leading to the death of multiple US troops & the soaring of oil prices globally a few weeks ago with the false narrative that Iran was weeks away from a nuke that it was planning to use on Israel & the U.S. . Also is what I said earlier incorrect regarding sniping children & building illegal settlements & the annexation of territories? Is that done In self defense?

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Anonymous OP 6d

You’re calling Israel attacking Iran unprovoked? How far into the past are you looking before you go “Anything prior to this day is not a provocation?” A week? I can go find the Tzofar screenshots from when they spent three days attacking the entire country with ballistic missiles and drones if you want. Killed a few Palestinians too, not that you care. Also not a full scale war, you’re being hyperbolic. Or maybe you’re just 12 and you don’t know what that looks like.

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Anonymous #2 6d

I mean Israel claims it did a PREEMPTIVE STRIKE on Iran due to Iran being weeks away from a nuke that it was going to use on Israel & the U.S. so unless you’re claiming that Iran was indeed two weeks away from a nuke that it was gonna use on Israel & the U.S. then yes It was unprovoked since they had to lie about the reason to try & justify it. Is there a reason you that want to defend a a genocidal apartheid state are you a fascist Nazi or something because other then that I can’t think of a

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Anonymous OP 6d

Legitimate reason someone would want to defend a genocidal a apartheid state

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Anonymous OP 6d

I would say that Iran has been at war with Israel for at least 30 years by proxy through Hezbollah, Hamas, and the various other terror groups that it trains, funds, and supplies, and whatever Israel says the motivation for this latest series of strikes was is largely irrelevant. They have been at war since 1979 when the new Iranian government adopted the elimination of the Jewish state as a core component of its foreign policy.

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Anonymous #2 6d

This doesn’t even qualify as a defense of Israel. Am I defending Ukraine by saying they’re defending themselves from a foreign aggressor, or am I stating a matter of fact? Still just waiting for an example that doesn’t make me drool when I read it.

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Anonymous #2 6d

So claiming that despite Israel lying about the reason to create a justification any attack on Iran by Israel would be justified because of the proxy?

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Anonymous OP 6d

“Any attack on Iran by Israel would be justified” No, that’s not true at all. But they are justified in attacking any and all targets that diminish or destroy the capacity of the Iranian regime to make war on them, either directly or by proxy, up to and including those that lead to the regime’s collapse.

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Anonymous #2 6d

So do you believe they were two weeks from a nuke that they were going to use on Israel & the U.S.? If not why would they lie about it if what you’re claiming is true it makes no sense to make up lie like they did

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Anonymous OP 6d

I’m not sure what the time table is on Iran acquiring a bomb. They without question possess (or possessed, if the strikes were as successful in destroying their enrichment capacity) the ability to enrich uranium to weapons grade within a couple of weeks of any decision to do so, which I think is where that “two weeks” thing comes from. Once they have the nuclear material, actually building a bomb is a fairly trivial. We educate many of their engineers, they have the know-how.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Do I believe they’d nuke Israel if they had a bomb? Depends on who’s in charge. The possibility of a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv is very real. Even if they don’t, they’ll use it to blackmail the other Gulf states and assert themselves as the regional power, which is almost as bad.

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Anonymous #2 6d

Dude Israel has been saying that Iran was weeks to months away from nukes for the last 40 years. You high key would have fell for the WMD lie that we were told about Iraq although considering that you’re trying to defend Israel I shouldn’t be surprised

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Anonymous OP 6d

I know the “two weeks from a bomb” thing is a meme for you, but if you actually research this you’ll see that the reason they’ve been “two weeks from a bomb” for years is because they have in fact had the ability, for years, to enrich uranium to weapons grade within a couple of weeks. They tell the IAEA and the international community that they stop at 60% U-235, which powers their reactors.

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Anonymous OP 6d

You can make fun of me for saying that if you think it makes you look cool to the one guy who’s gonna scroll down this far, but if you bothered to read even one article about this - even one titled something like “Iran was nowhere close to a bomb, experts say” in Scientific American from a week ago you’d see that I’m right.

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Anonymous #2 6d

I don’t care about looking cool the vast majority of People know you’re an idiot for falling for this obvious lie. If anyone was genuinely concerned about Iran having bombs they wouldn’t have ripped up JCPOA or bomb Iran in the middle of negotiations after they’ve conceded even more than they did for the JCPOA. Everyone who’s not an idiot knows that what Israel claimed is & was a lie even official reports acknowledged it’s a lie.

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Anonymous OP 6d

I didn’t claim any of these people were good strategists re: JCPOA, but the risk of Iran developing a bomb is very real. As for why they’d lie, my assumption is that Israel is in fact more concerned with the regime falling than they are with the regime developing a bomb. Israel (allegedly) has bombs, so they just enter a MAD game if Iran has one. The difference between them being that the mullahs are probably stupid or insane enough to use one in a first strike.

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Anonymous #2 6d

And yeah, they’re watching their capital with the West dry up faster than the water supply in Gaza, pretty obvious they’d use whatever capital they have now while it exists, that’s not difficult at all.

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Anonymous #2 6d

No 💩 they aren’t concerned with Iran getting a bomb because again you’d have to be a freaking idiot to believe all the BS Israel has been saying regarding Iran getting a Nuke. Also Israel would definitely use a nuke before Iran. Yeah everyone literally hates Israel & for good reason so of course they’re trying to do as much as possible while they still have Trump in office

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Anonymous OP 6d

Weird comment, it seems like you degenerated in the span of four posts from someone kind of reasonable to an ideologue with a notebook of talking points. What just happened?

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Anonymous #2 6d

Oh wait fuck you’re this guy I take it back, I don’t know why I thought you had a brain

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Anonymous #2 6d

O wait you’re the idiot who believes the two weeks aways from Nukes lie that’s how I know you didn’t have a brain

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Anonymous OP 6d

You have ZERO cognitive ability FWI

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Anonymous OP 6d

That’s this thread, dumbass.

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Anonymous #3 6d

Yes I know according to Israel defenders everyone else’s incapable of thinking. It’s not the fault of the genocidal apartheid state the real problem is everyone else who has a problem with the genocidal apartheid state. You guys ever stop & ask yourself why does everyone hate Zionist & Israel

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Anonymous OP 6d

No, I never had to wonder why people like you were persuaded by these buzzwords.

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Anonymous #2 6d

What buzzwords am I using specifically?

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Anonymous OP 6d

“Genocidal” “apartheid” “ethnostate”

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Anonymous #3 6d

Since they're just simple "buzzwords" could you please explain why the UN, all the major human rights organizations including the Israel one, B'Tselem, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention etc use those same "buzzwords"

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Can you defend your position without appeals to authority, or are you actually this dumb?

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Anonymous #2 6d

I would assume it’s the latter but let’s see

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Anonymous #2 6d

Appeals to authority lol Just say you don’t like that all the experts on the subject say otherwise. Like what’s the point of institutions or books or experts if relying on their works & studies makes you stupid? Your anti-intellectualism just proves how dumb you zionst dip 💩 are

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Anonymous OP 6d

Can I not use the works of astronauts and scientist to prove that there’s no gravity or oxygen in space or am I an idiot if I can’t go to space & prove it myself?

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Anonymous OP 6d

Well, now, that word “expert” means something altogether different from “authority” doesn’t it? If these are “expert” organizations then that implies some expertise, which implies exclusivity. Certainly it wouldn’t be the case that you, yes, you!- could become an expert genocide scholar for the low price of $30 and a student e-mail account. What’s the point of institutions, indeed.

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Anonymous OP 6d

You proved #2 right just like I predicted lmao

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Anonymous OP 6d

There actually is gravity and oxygen in space, so if you tried to prove otherwise you’d be wrong in addition to misunderstanding the material that you’re citing to make your argument. Not unlike another situation…

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Anonymous #2 6d

Let’s be real there’s not enough oxygen in space for you to breathe & you I both know that. Same for gravity. Also you’re saying everything I mentioned payed $30 to make the claim that Israel is genocidal an apartheid state?

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Anonymous OP 6d

Oh so we’re concerned about how much oxygen we can breathe now, got it. See how making specific claims is important? You’re still wrong about gravity. If you are on a ship traveling between the Earth and moon and you let go of all harnesses 20,000 km from Earth’s surface you will accelerate towards Earth at a noticeable rate. In a long enough passageway like aboard the ISS you will reach dangerous velocities by falling.

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Anonymous #2 6d

You know what I me but yes there is oxygen in space but again not enough for a person to breathe so as far as human life is concerned there might as well be 0 as for gravity yeah there’s technically gravity which you’ll feel more the closer you are to any large body like a planet. Now does this mean the UN, all the major human rights organizations including the Israel one, B'Tselem, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention etc are wrong?

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Anonymous OP 6d

*what I mean

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Anonymous OP 6d

As with your example, it means that you don’t even have a fundamental understanding of what these groups you’re citing are, who runs them, what their membership or expertise is, and if you did then you wouldn’t have brought them up.

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Anonymous #2 6d

What’s your proof that the UN, all the major human rights organizations including the Israel one, B'Tselem, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention western doctors & aid workers are lying & untrustworthy when it comes to Israel being an apartheid state that’s committing a genocide. Also what is the motivation for so many institutions to lie especially considering the reputation Israel had until recently

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Anonymous OP 6d

The fact that I could submit an essay and a $30 fee along with my .edu email to the International Association of Genocide Scholars and be a voting member. “What’s the motivation” how many states represented in the UN General Assembly have either Muslim majorities or large Muslim pluralities/minorities?

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Anonymous #2 6d

So your claim is that because you can pay money & submit an essay for the IAGS specifically that means the UN, all the major human rights organizations including the Israeli one, B'Tselem, The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, western doctors & aid works are lying about Israel being a genocidal apartheid state? Also you’re claiming that the UN is lying & untrustworthy about Israel being a genocidal apart State because the UN is secretly full of Muslims. Damn that sounds insanely

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Anonymous OP 6d

Racist and Islamophobic. You legit sound like Rabbi Baruch with that racism

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Anonymous OP 6d

The Socratic Method is supposed to be infuriating but not for the person using it, holy fucking Christ, you are a black hole of rhetoric from which no coherent fucking answer ever escapes.

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Anonymous #2 6d

Your response doesn’t sound like proof that UN, all the major human rights organizations including the Israeli one, B'Tselem, The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, western doctors & aid works are lying about Israel being a genocidal apartheid state. It also doesn’t sound like proof that the UN is full of & controlled by Muslims which again just sounds insanely racist

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Anonymous OP 6d

Baruch Goldstein was not a rabbi, if you insist on using an honorific when you refer to him the correct one to use is Doctor, but thanks for the little peek through the curtains into the antisemitism we all knew was inside.

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Anonymous #2 6d

lol what are you talking about I know Baruch Goldstein wasn’t a rabbi never said he was. Lol I know Zionist love killing so maybe that’s why he was on your mind but he’s not the only person named Baruch in the world. If anything you’re antisemitic for assuming I was referring to him

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Anonymous OP 6d

Who did you mean then?

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Anonymous #2 6d

Rabbi Avraham Baruch so again what’s your proof that UN, all the major human rights organizations including the Israeli one, B'Tselem, The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, western doctors & aid works are lying about Israel being a genocidal apartheid state. Also what proof do you have that the UN is full of & controlled by Muslims who forced the UN to say Israel is committing a genocide

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Anonymous OP 6d

Fucking who? Hang on. Wait. So you want me to believe that you were making a reference to some YouTube video with like 10k views and expected anyone to get it? No, you’re just lying, or you watch way too much Hasan, you don’t even know what apartheid means, I’m not wasting any more of my time arguing with your dumb ass.

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Anonymous #2 6d

Hasan isn’t proof that the UN is full of & controlled by Muslims which again just insanely racist you’re a racist. Like imagine if I said the US is controlled by jews you’d rightful call me antisemitic. Also dude was poping a few weeks ago on tiktok Also are you tying to now claim that that UN, all the major human rights organizations including the Israeli one, B'Tselem, The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention,

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Anonymous OP 6d

western doctors & aid works are lying about Israel being a genocidal apartheid state. Are lying & got all of their info from a fucking Twitch streamer?

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Anonymous OP 6d

Imagine if I said the UN was controlled by Muslims. That would be racist, you’re right. But, as with almost everything that you’ve said I said, I didn’t say that. Farewell dipshit.

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No, Zionism = the existence of a Jewish state in ISRAEL. Hope this helps

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