Anonymous OP 19w

Many of them did come to the U.S. and became successful….

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Anonymous #3 19w

exactly now imagine if more of them did and scattered around the country

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Anonymous #1 19w

Same year they carved up India into Pakistan with no regard for ethnic boundaries which led to a huge genocide in 1971 lol

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Anonymous #1 19w

I want to pop in here to say this is actually a misunderstanding of the history of Zionism. Zionism started when Palestine was under ottoman control. It just continued under British rule. Zionist militias were actively at war against the British because the British were trying to limit how many Jews could immigrate to Palestine to protect the rights of Arabs. The British didn’t make Zionism. Zionism happened in opposition to the British.

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Anonymous #6 19w

One of the primary reasons that Britain didn’t step in to defend Israel in 1948 is that a zionist militia had recently executed kidnapped British soldiers. One Zionist paramilitary, the Lehi, which later became part of the IDF, tried to ally itself with fascist Italy and Nazi germany *against Britain* because they thought that British rule in Palestine was a greater threat to the Zionist cause.

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Anonymous OP 19w

Unfortunately, western governments were not receptive to taking Jewish refugees. During the Evian Conference, only the Dominican Republic agreed to take Jews. There was actually a proposal to use Alaska’s status as a territory to get around immigration restrictions and mass-resettle fleeing European Jews. But it was not implemented.

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Anonymous #6 19w

There’s an alt history book I’ve been meaning to read called the Yiddish Policeman’s Union about what would happen if millions of European Jews had been resettled in Alaska and escaped the Holocaust. It goes into the resulting tensions between Jews and Indigenous Alaskans and how this would impact the desire of fundamentalist Christians for Israel to exist.

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Anonymous #6 19w

You clearly know ball, but now I'm a bit confused. Zionism certainly outdates Britain lol, it's an original Jewish sentiment, that that land is theirs bc god and divinity and blah blah blah. But my understanding was that after WWII, Britain is the nation that created the state of Israel?

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Anonymous #1 19w

Okay I just did some more research, yeah I didn't have the full image. So Britain DID have a major hand in creating modern day Israel, but moreso over the years of 1917-1930, and by the time WWII was over, they were like 'Omg ts is actually really bad we fucked up' and tried to back out? Or, did just back out? Like 'Oopsies, actually this clearly isn't working and you're all insane, so bye guys good luck!'? 😭

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Anonymous #1 19w

Okay so basically Zionism as a political movement started in the 1800s when Palestine was under ottoman control. Jews started buying land and immigrating. By the time Britain got control of Palestine, it was about 11% Jewish. Jews continued to immigrate. In 1917 britain had declared their support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.

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Anonymous #6 19w

This was an effort to garner support for the British war effort from Jews during World War One. From that point on the British were stuck trying to balance the interests of Jews and Arabs. They had made promises to nationalists from both groups and were stuck pleasing nobody.

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Anonymous #6 19w

The Arabs revolted against continued Jewish immigration. So the British drafted a plan to make Palestine an independent Arab state, with provisions to restrict Jewish immigration. This then caused the Zionists to revolt.

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Anonymous #6 19w

The U.S. pushed a more pro-Jewish policy and Britain a more pro-Arab policy in planning a solution. It all ended with the UN creating a partition plan that was like “okay half Arab state half Jewish state maybe this will work” and the British just washed their hands of it and then all hell broke loose.

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Anonymous #6 19w

Partition plans with a “maybe this will work” is a common British empire thing lol

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Anonymous #6 19w

Particularly when it comes to religious extremists demanding their own land

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