Anonymous mother_russia 3d

I’ve considered that maybe Jesus was describing God as truly omnipresent/the makeup of the universe itself. Breaking the bread and then saying “eat of my body” for example

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Anonymous basedpaperbasket 3d

Interesting 🤔 I definitely feel like the God Jesus was referring to was different than the God Jewish people were following, like personality and everything was completely different

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Anonymous mother_russia 3d

Trinity was made up 300 years after Jesus by a pagan who wanted to rule over Christians and pagans.

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Anonymous OP 3d

That’s fair, he’s to blame for a LOT of issues within church teachings 💀

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Anonymous OP 3d

Was that really the first instance of the trinity?

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Anonymous mother_russia 3d

The first actually recorded instance, yes. Before then, it hadn’t been present in Christian scriptures

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Anonymous #3 3d

I love learning new things about this lol

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Anonymous mother_russia 3d

Actually I misspoke. The council of Nicaea basically decided that Jesus was divine in essence, whereas the second council of Constantinople actually decided that the Holy Spirit was also God, meaning that for a whole 300+ years after Jesus started preaching, people didn’t actually think he was God and that the Holy Spirit was God either

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Anonymous #3 3d

Ooooo that’s really interesting! How was the council of Nicaea formed? If you don’t mind me asking

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Anonymous mother_russia 3d

Please do keep in mind I’m no biblical scholar I just have a weird interest in this. Arius - a priest - was teaching that Jesus was not in fact divine but was a created being (not 100% sure on that one, I’m not Christian) and his status was lower than God, which was contrary to what his archbishop was teaching (Jesus = God) and he accused his archbishop of following the teachings of somebody else, which was a contrary opinion to the majority opinion (God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit are separate)

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Anonymous #3 3d

People got mad and confused, and it went up the ladder until Roman emperor Constantine I called the council of Nicaea together to decide things. They ended up deciding that Jesus was divine to the same level of God, but made no actual mention of the holy spirits divinity, thus was the beginning of but not the first appearance of, trinitarian doctrine

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Anonymous #3 3d

There is SOME mention of the “trinity” extending to the early 2nd century, but it didn’t follow the “father son holy spirit” formula. It was authored by and was “God, his Word (Logos), and his Wisdom (Sophia)” so to say the Trinity didn’t exist is somewhat false, but it is entirely accurate to say the Trinity as followed in biblical doctrine in current times was not added to Christianity until at the very earliest the Second Council of Constantinople when the Holy Spirit was made divine and God

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Anonymous mother_russia 2d

have you heard of gnosticism, you’d find it interesting

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Anonymous basedpaperbasket 2d

Thank you so much for sharing because I looked it up and it’s absolutely something I find interesting 🤩

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Anonymous #3 2d

Amazing 🤩 that’s super interesting that his word and wisdom were separated because that IS mentioned within the Bible when things like wisdom are personified

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