US Politics on Sidechat | Jesus Christ I talk about personal experiences and you people are quick to call me a gusano it’s very sick. All of you have never experienced communism and it tells but please tell me the appeal and how the US would look if we adopted it.

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US Politics 22w

Jesus Christ I talk about personal experiences and you people are quick to call me a gusano it’s very sick. All of you have never experienced communism and it tells but please tell me the appeal and how the US would look if we adopted it.

US Politics 22w

I have a genuine question for any socialists or communists. I fled Cuba with my parents by boat when I was 7. We experienced the hardships of socialism first hand and I don’t get why you guys would want that here. Please explain so I can understand.

Anonymous 22w

One person called you that. I (#3) made a very well thought out response and would appreciate you engaging with that instead of only acknowledging what you find most provocative

Anonymous 22w

Almost like the plural of anecdote is not evidence

Anonymous 22w

None of those fools have ever set foot on Cuba. Most never will. Leave them to what awaits them if they support socialism. They will live long enough to see their initial joy turn to ash and their children grow up to see empty shelves on their grocery stores and the government beat their children for their parents complaints.

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Anonymous

#1 22w

Have you ever been to Cuba?

Anonymous

#2 22w

No but I would like to. Lots of very interesting terrestrial snail species and I am convinced there is an undiscovered velvet worm species in the jungles somewhere. Btw if socialism inevitably led to economic hardship there would be no need for the USA to sanction Cuba.

Anonymous

#1 22w

I’ve been multiple parts of that country. The most visible effect of the sanctions was that that there are virtually no American goods that were made after 1960 there. The grocery stores are all government run, the grocery stores are quite often out of many items due to supply and demand being a non existent concept. In many ways it’s like they are still in 20th century there with the exception of a select few hotels in Havana. You don’t have any 4th amendment rights there,

Anonymous

#2 22w

The police can and do pull people over for no reason at all and search the vehicle. It happened to our cab driver. It also felt like we were being watched when we were there too.

Anonymous

#2 22w

The quality of life of Cuba went up significantly after the overthrow of Bautista. If socialism was the culprit we would expect it to get worse. Cuba had a lower infant mortality rate than the USA until sanctions increased in 2018. You think Cuba condemns all socialism, but that the suffering of Guatemala and Honduras due to U.S. imperialism doesn’t condemn all capitalism?

Anonymous

#2 22w

Authoritarianism can exist under socialist or capitalist systems. Bautista was a US-backed authoritarian.

Anonymous

#1 22w

And again. Why would the sanctions exist if socialism would make Cuba inevitably fail?

Anonymous

#1 22w

That happens in any socialist country, then the money quickly runs out and the problems begin. It’s a pattern. The same thing happened in North Korea, China, Venezuela, Iraq and probably more that I haven’t thought about.

Anonymous

#2 22w

I don’t think the money is running out in China, somewhat famously. If you’re all about grocery stores, what about food deserts? If grocery stores are based on profitability, there are areas in the USA where they are not profitable to operate so there are *no* grocery stores at all. But you don’t acknowledge flaws when it’s capitalism, do you.

Anonymous 22w

You act like an expert on a country you’ve never visited, that’s like claiming you’re a doctor without ever going to school

Anonymous

#1 22w

Btw Cuba’s malnutrition rate is currently 2.5%, the same as the USA’s, which is fucking wild considering the sanctions.

Anonymous

#2 22w

And you don’t automatically become informed on all global geopolitics and economics for having set foot in a country.

Anonymous

#2 22w

I am not legally allowed to visit Cuba precisely because of the U.S. sanctions btw.

Anonymous

#1 22w

You can still visit Cuba. I did.