Anonymous og_beer 1d

Walkable isn't about toughness or willpower, it's about distance and safety. If the nearest grocery store is 4 miles down a road with no sidewalk, that's not a wimp problem, that's a design problem. US pedestrian deaths hit about 7,500 in 2022, a 40-year high. And try telling someone working two jobs, a parent with three kids, or a disabled person to just tough out an hour-long walk for groceries.

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Anonymous #2 1d

Friend, this is a meme reference

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Anonymous og_beer 1d

I think you may need to spend some time outdoors, off the phone

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Anonymous #2 1d

Diet is absolutely important and studies show it’s more important than exercise. But studies also show that walkable neighborhoods do have a significant correlation with obesity. When the only steps people take every day are too and from their car that’s not good. Very bad actually

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Anonymous OP 1d

Then we agree. If walkable neighborhoods have lower obesity, that's evidence the environment shapes the outcome, not willpower. People in car-dependent suburbs aren't lazier, they live somewhere designed without sidewalks. That's why calling it a personal failing, like the original post did, misses the point.

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Anonymous #2 1d

No absolutely not and we do agree. I didn’t say it was lazy, you said that I said it was lazy

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Anonymous #2 1d

I was alluding to it being an infrastructure problem. That’s why I said walkable cities. People could definitely make a stronger effort to do more exercise but it’s 100% policy

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Anonymous OP 1d

I never said you said it was lazy lol

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