Anonymous _orangutan 6d

ban speculation on housing, and implement housing first initiatives. not whatever fascist bullshit you morons come up with

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Anonymous _orangutan 6d

a solution to the housing crisis. bulldoze the playgrounds for well to do whites (golf courses and country clubs) and build dense affordable housing in their place

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Anonymous _orangutan 6d

Agreed with banning speculation on housing & housing first initiatives! Though I do like golf and the country club. A compromise can be reached!

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Anonymous #2 6d

Vice has a good documentary detailing some of these issues, it’s called “Shelter”

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Anonymous #2 6d

But they also need to be reeducated. A lot of them have no sense of decorum or social cohesion.

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Anonymous OP 6d

How are you supposed to have a sense of “social cohesion” when you are pushed out of the community you live in and ignored by the state/nation you are a citizen of? How are you supposed to have decorum without the opportunity to feel clean, fed, supported, and secure? It’s not about “reeducating” people, it’s about providing them the support and opportunity to learn and practice. Homeless people aren’t Tarzan. They are in constant fight-or-flight

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Anonymous #2 6d

Well why were they pushed out? How did they lose all this? I understand some are down on their luck but many have serious mental illness and need to be institutionalized. Others merely need state-built housing.

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Anonymous #2 6d

It’s in the name, you lack a “home.” Many of them lack a feeling of safety, being seen/respected by others, and a guarantee of food, warmth, good hygiene, enrichment, and opportunity. Nobody wakes up and chooses to be homeless (unless it’s escaping a dangerous situation), the stress of instability, lack of peace or protection, and a lack of community exasperates the cycle of homelessness

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Anonymous OP 6d

so you don’t give a fuck about homeless people, you just want to institutionalize them to not have to see them?

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Anonymous #8 6d

There are those who need to be institutionalized and others who merely need free housing. I care for them in that I am disgusted by poverty & mental illness and wish for no one to experience it.

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Anonymous OP 6d

institutionalization will not help anyone for being homeless, if you want to provide mental health services then it must be on a voluntary program, otherwise you’re only recreating our old problem of over institutionalization and the subsequent issues that accompany that (like abuse of patients) Provide housing first, and you’ll be surprised how many issues being resolving themselves.

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Anonymous #8 6d

(I’m not talking about shelters either, I’m talking provide actual houses or apartments to people facing or living in homelessness)

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Anonymous #8 6d

You do not ask a drowning man if he consents to be not drowning. You just save him. Sometimes people are incapable of making their own choices. Ex. 2024 reelection of the orange clown. The people are too stupid to decide

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Anonymous #8 6d

You’re preaching to the choir. Free housing ought to be the norm.

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Anonymous OP 6d

you’re acting as if the state, the same state who created the conditions for homelessness and wage slavery, would actually give a fuck? We have historical precedent to understand that mass institutionalization campaigns are not for the benefit of the people they’re targeting, but for the benefit of others to not have to think about or deal with them. In your scenario, providing a free house is the equivalent of a life raft/pulling them out of the water. I view institutionalization as the

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Anonymous #8 6d

equivalent to imprisoning the man for drowning in the first place lol

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Anonymous #8 6d

You think too small young proletariat. Indeed your world view and vision is too limited and only thinks in fiscal quarters instead of decades. Fear not young one for change will eventually come

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Anonymous OP 6d

Or maybe, you’ve adopted too much of capitalist sentiment.

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Anonymous OP 6d

We can’t meaningfully change things while reimplementing and reinforcing the exact frameworks that were weaponized against countless people, but especially anti-capitalists and marginalized demographics

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Anonymous #8 6d

I’m more of a Technocrat (In the traditional non tech bro way)

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Anonymous OP 6d

so you’re just picking and choosing differently ideological beliefs that you don’t actually agree with, in order to subtly spread your own ideology?

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Anonymous #8 6d

I just want clean streets, no more loud people and a good space program

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Anonymous OP 6d

maybe let’s focus on ridding the streets of fascists yk? I promise that’s a much more meaningful first step than subtly criminalizing homelessness.

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Anonymous #8 6d

bc even if you got every homeless person out off the streets, we still have to deal with the plague that is white supremacy and the various fascist subgroups fighting for power.

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Anonymous #8 6d

They must be gotten rid of! Trump and his bad of corrupt pedos must be dealt with and brought to justice

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