Anonymous #1 1w

Shut up nazi

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Anonymous #2 1w

Shut up Nazi

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Anonymous #1 1w

Are you saying shooting up a synagogue is not anti-Semitic, but rather anti-Zionist?

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Anonymous #4 1w

Not sure why you’re downvoted, this is a reasonable take. People can criticize the Israeli government all they want. However, I’ve seen everyday Jews personally taking the brunt of people’s frustrations. Calling US Jews “zionists” who aren’t even from Israel is just showing you’re mad at Jewish people, not how the govt is acting.

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Anonymous #3 1w

You are the nazi

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Anonymous #5 1w

i lost family friends, a pair of brothers, when a MAGA diehard shot up the Tree of Life synagogue. Anti-semitism is on the rise, yes, but it seems that Zionists don’t care and are simply using it as an excuse or a means to an end — enacting their Zionism on the world. and that pisses me the fuck off every fucking time i think about it.

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Anonymous #1 1w

The tree of life murderer was an antizionist far right extremest

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Anonymous #2 1w

nah he was just grossly antisemitic and thought the local HIAS was aiding the “Central American caravan” that the conservative media kept fear-mongering about. you can even read about that in Wikipedia but go ahead and check out his 2023 conviction i guess too.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I’m sorry you lost family friends at that shooting. As a non-Jew who doesn’t have a large stake in the Jewish community besides some friends, I think there are lots of us who don’t see a need to expand Israel and colonize the West Bank but are sympathetic to the backlash Jews in the US are facing for simply being Jewish. Many claim antisemitism to cover Zionism, but there are also lots of us who just like our Jewish friends and don’t have a reason to care for the state of Israel

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Anonymous #5 1w

As you admitted that your not Jewish you actually don’t get an opinion on what Jews do with their rightful land including the West Bank

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Anonymous #5 1w

Well Israel’s Zionist actions are so fucking horrific and disgusting that it’s stoking the flames of antisemitism. They don’t give a fuck. They only care about their Zionist initiatives and don’t care who dies or gets hurt along the way. Again, it’s a means to an end. They want to take all of Gaza & genocide the Palestinians. They have literally said “nothing but bombs should be going into Gaza, zero humanitarian aid”… It’s making everything worse.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Jewish people do NOT get to fucking slaughter an entire people for some fucking land. They do not get to be ENTITLED to anything, and that’s the sentiment that has stoked the flames of antisemitism — the assumption of entitlement. It’s making shit worse, and then when we criticize Israel’s zionism, people cry antisemitism and it’s too sensitive to criticism. It’s a circular argument and the longer we argue, the more families and children die in Gaza…

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Anonymous #2 1w

Yes I do, in the same way I have an opinion that Iran should not be hanging protestors. It’s a globalized world and your opinions aren’t bound by your race/nationality. I think forcefully taking land and settling the West Bank are making things worse for Israel. It’s making Palestinians increasingly violent and mad their land is taken, among many other atrocities. That’s adding to the antisemitism Jews in the US are facing.

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Anonymous #1 1w

You call jews that want to be safe live their lives without fear of bombings and rockets from Hamas and hezbollah zionists. You just hate Jews

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Anonymous OP 1w

… sir do you know the difference between Zionism and Judaism?

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Anonymous #1 1w

#1 thinks that a Hezbollah fighter’s brother trying to massacre Jewish preschoolers is antizionism

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Anonymous #7 1w

He prob thinks Hitler was the biggest anti Zionist of them all

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Anonymous #2 1w

Lmao the West Bank is 100% not rightfully their land, in fact Israel has been illegally occupying it for decades.

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Anonymous #4 1w

It’s almost like the Israeli government’s entire strategy is to bolster antisemitism around the world. This is kind of inevitable when you broadcast yourself murdering little kids for two years, and plaster “we represent all Jewish people everywhere” on top of the footage.

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Anonymous #5 1w

But the vast majority of Jewish Americans are literally zionists? They support Israel and what it’s been doing…. Zionist doesn’t mean “person from Israel” it means a supporter of the political ideology(s) of Zionism.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Jews will mostly define it as support for the existence of 1. the state of Israel 2. a Jewish state. 1 and 2 can be the same or interchangeable. If you’re going to judge Jewish diaspora for declaring themselves by and large Zionist you should engage with their definition of the word, which does not encompass support for every action the current Israeli government takes or support for ethnic cleansing or genocide.

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Anonymous #7 1w

The existence of the Jewish state is fundamentally linked with genocide and ethnic cleansing… thats literally his the Jewish majority was achieved. The fact of the matter is that even those who found this latest genocide distasteful, generally don’t object in general to the murder of palestinians.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Thanks for confirming you’re not actually interested in understanding any perspective subtly different from the one you approached the issue with and are not worth engaging with in any way on any topic.

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Anonymous OP 1w

The Nazis actually helped the Zionists, so that would be factually incorrect

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Anonymous #9 1w

This is a myth…

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Anonymous #8 1w

Not a myth, it’s called the Haavara agreement and it allowed Zionists to relocate to Palestine and recover some of their wealth and assets.

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Anonymous #9 1w

You do realize the Nazis were already deporting Jews at that point right? I’m not sure what significance you see in something that involved just 60,000 leaving the country, that had nothing to do with Israel, and which was controversial with the rest of zionism.

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Anonymous #2 1w

The West Bank is not Israeli land, they create illegal settlements that the government doesn’t do anything about, and then recursively incorporates them as Israeli territory. Very similar to US homesteaders act. They often beat, kill, and destroy families and livestock already living there. Disgusting behavior, you shouldn’t defend the literal worst aspects of Israeli society

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Anonymous #9 1w

And do you know what year that agreement was finalized in, and are you familiar with subsequent Nazi actions that had influence in the region?

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Anonymous #8 1w

Why are you even arguing this point? The Nazis directly and indirectly helped Zionists accomplish their objective which was the colonization of Palestine

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Anonymous #9 1w

because that’s very obviously not what the intention was? i’m literally an antizionist. it’s 100% antisemitic to try and claim that jews and nazis were allies. this is on the level of how zionists claim that palestinians gave the idea for the holocaust

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Anonymous #9 1w

There is so much history that you’re just willfully ignoring in order to make this point that it’s actually laughable.

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Anonymous #7 1w

if you need a definition for Zionism, here it is, keywords being “ethnocultural nationalist movement” … which leads to the elimination of Palestinian Arabs, historically by violent acts, imprisonment, and subsequent torture and death. IDF is literally shooting Palestinian kids in the back when they pose ZERO threat, including a teenage American boy…

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Anonymous #7 1w

there is literally UN meeting minutes from around 1982 discussing how IDF agents brutally raped and murdered victims & how that cannot stand or be ignored… and yet, here we are with it still happening!

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Anonymous #1 1w

I missed the part where I asked what a Wikipedia editor thinks

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Anonymous #7 1w

You seemed to have missed the definition of Zionism entirely so i figured the easiest and simplest explanation of it would be most helpful.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Simplest in that it was written by someone agenda driven with no knowledge of the history of the thing they’re defining. You know anybody can look at Wikipedia edits and the back and forth they have over how to frame things? I’m actually not sure I was talking to you about this at all, unless you’re #8 multiboxing or just wanted to jump into the wrong comment thread and screech. I was talking to you about all that slurping you’re doing for genocidal terrorists who want to butcher preschoolers.

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Anonymous #7 1w

soooo you mean the IDF? like what they did to Hind Rajab? maybe you’re talking about this news article? or idk the hundreds of deaths the IDF has caused since the supposed “ceasefire” … not to mention their opposition for ANY humanitarian aid… Have you forgotten that Gaza’s population was majorly children below the age of 14, so therefore attacks on any civilian targets unquestionably will kill children.

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Anonymous #1 1w

What does the IDF have to do with preschoolers in a synagogue in Minneapolis, duder? 🙂

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Anonymous #7 1w

if you read this comment thread from the beginning, you’d know how i connected their violent zionism to current waves of antisemitism. the IDF’s heinous and disgusting actions are stoking the flames of antisemitism bc when people criticize their zionism, they cry wolf in response and call it antisemitism. it’s a fucked up cycle and i’m fucking sick of it. to conclude & restate thesis, antizionism ≠ antisemitism.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Really? Because it sure looks like OP is lamenting the rise of antisemitism, giving the actual example of a guy trying to massacre preschoolers, and your response is to immediately conflate these actions with antizionism somehow. Actually you know what… hang on a second

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Anonymous #1 1w

Ok, just had to block check you real quick, but suffice it to say that you are literally the only person who thinks this is in any way related to Israel, and if you could stop being a fucking kapo for like four seconds you might be able to see how disgusting your behavior in this thread is.

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Anonymous #7 1w

it’s relevant because the vast majority of the current rise of antisemitism as reported is literally just criticism of israel. the meaning of the term antisemitism has been utterly destroyed and devalued by its political misuse.

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Anonymous #8 1w

If you’re unwilling to call it antisemitism when someone tries driving a truck into a synagogue and attempts to butcher babies, that is a you problem and has nothing to do with supposed semantic misuse. I’m completely disinterested in listening to alternate definitions from people, many of whom apparently aren’t even Jewish, who can’t even acknowledge this.

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Anonymous #7 1w

as usual with you people, that’s a nice paragraph complaining about something I literally didn’t say.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Just bringing the topic back around to the OP after this thread has been completely derailed by the two of you and your “antizionism != antisemitism” bullshit. Crawl back to your circle jerk and be disgusting cretins in private.

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Anonymous #7 1w

Derailed? The primary argument that zionists freaks point is the now wise spread opposition to Israel. The argument that horrible stuff like this is our fault

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Anonymous #7 1w

i’m not unwilling to call it antisemitism. i’m unwilling to call criticism of Israel’s zionist agenda antisemitism. unfortunately, many Zionists in America WILL call that criticism antisemitic in nature, which that grows frustration from both the Jewish community about the crying wolf and the actual antisemites like the perp in MN to incite further antisemitic rhetoric, actions, and attacks. Again, the brothers killed at Tree of Life attended my family’s bat mitzvahs.

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