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They said the same thing about Saddam and then it did get worse
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Maduro is starving thousands of children to death. People are being tortured in unimaginably excruciating ways. Y’all don’t understand how bad the situation is. The man is Hitler-level evil. I’m against war too but it literally cannot get worse otherwise.
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Anonymous 1w

It was true about Saddam. The world is better without him

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Anonymous 1w

It’s just not comparable. In Venezuela, we’re not dealing with Islamic terrorists and fundamentalists. The dynamics at play are totally different. Maduro is extremely unpopular and the people are unlikely to put up another similar leader.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Because there’s no wayyyyy a power vacuum in Venezuela could enable cartels and radical political movements just like how removing Saddam enabled fundamentalist groups. Gimme a break.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Yeah. The terrorism issue in Iraq got supercharged because of the power vacuum left by Saddam. Venezuela may not be divided into Cartel mini-states yet, but if the government gets overthrown, that could change very quickly.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

That can likely be mitigated. The dynamics in Venezuela are less likely to allow such groups to gain as significant traction. Islamic extremism is a totally different animal. There’s nothing else like it. When you have people willing to die and suffer horribly simply because it’s written in the Quran, nothing we try will work. Venezuela doesn’t have this problem. They’ll fold much easier.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

You’ll find the left agrees with you in the fact that Venezuela has a horrible government and needs change desperately, but the answer isn’t US involvement.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Then how else? Once you’ve lost your democracy, the only way to get it back is by force. The Venezuelan people have no chance of doing it on their own and nobody else is gonna step up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Historically speaking U.S.-led government change in Latin America doesn’t tend to result in democracy. I wouldn’t expect an intervention from the Trump Administration of all entities to be especially concerned with that either.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

By not doing the same failing thing we’ve done for 75 years? The banana republics gave us the civil war in Nicaragua, we had a communist revolution on former US soil with Cuba, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

You’re a fucking dumbass if you think trump wants anything other than an excuse to extend his power and make billions off the deaths of war. If you care so much about democracy, stop attempting to talk about the status of other nations’ democracies when our democracy here is actively under attack and being degraded away, regardless of whether you’re mature enough to acknowledge that reality; that’s difficult for you though considering you actively support the destruction of our democracy.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Also, Biden to his credit tried to get change in Venezuela through economic pressure. He lifted sanctions for political prisoners and at the promise of a free election in Oct 2023. He reimposed them in April 2024 after it was uncovered that the elections were in fact tampered with

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