
Cringe performative bullshit. Privileged american sitting on their couch telling others that one of the most authoritarian countries on the planet is actually nice and cool and good actually. You could perhaps make an argument that North Korea were the better option 70 years ago, when the south was more authoritarian and massacre-prone. But since then the south has democratized and the north has collapsed inwards into an authoritarian hellhole. The north is not the good side now.
What do you call songgun? What about firing missiles over Japanese airspace? What about the repressive nature with which they control the basic operations of the economy? What about the fact that foreign media is explicitly banned with severe consequences and all media in the nation is state owned? If North Korea is so free and so great why do they shoot people for trying to leave? How did they get so many numerous crimes against humanity convictions?
They literally have to otherwise they’d be obliterated to smithereens or completely took over by the us if they didn’t have anything to deter western intervention? How do they control the economy that’s so repressive? By having a communist governance structure? Foreign media is not fully banned, just pro western propaganda and for good reason seeing as how it has manufactured consent for the murder of millions. They don’t shoot ppl for trying to leave.
I think he was acting foolishly and disrespectfully and that his declining medical condition wasn’t intentional but likely from a contracted disease. In fact once they realized they didn’t have the proper medical equipment to take care of him they returned him to his family. It’s really sad what happened to him.
Why did his autopsy report and own fucking parents report his corpse being severely tortured with a court finding North Korea liable with the nation not formally contesting the charges even? His teeth had been re arranged his limbs systematically defigured. Why was he in a comma and died of a neurological injury. It was not a disease or even a recorded medical condition prior to him going nor could a neurological injury explain why his limbs and teeth looked that way.
Nah it’s not reasonable, again never said they were perfect. But it was hugely disrespectful for him as an American to do that considering how his country absolutely destroyed Korea. Their current conditions are the result of American genocide and deadly sanctions. I don’t think ideally but materially. This is the material outcome of the genocidal actions the American government has committed against them
Don’t waste your time. These are just like the people who believe Ukraine deserved to be invaded, or that the Palestinians brought their genocide upon themselves. They’re all the same, just ignorant cowards who’ll excuse any evil as long as that evil is being performed by someone who hates the same people they hate. Their opinions are nothing, they’re useless
If the north is so great why don’t they open the border with china? With Russia? Why do they need to keep their citizenry confined even from going to allied nations. Eh whatever I’m not going to convince you. You’ve drunk the cool-aid that because the USA is bad, therefore anything that’s against the USA must be good. You’re repeating the justifications for government atrocities and actually believing them.
“Privileged” American would be helping manufacture consent to continue americas genocide against them that takes 2 years off their lives. And spreading cia propaganda from your cushy ivory tower And I never said it was nice, cool or good. I’m just against false propaganda being spread Democratized while still being colonized by the US… sure
You’re not paying attention, child. You’re not listening. You people are the same as those on the far right who make the arguments I just displayed. You defend horrific things, brutal dictators, unspeakable atrocities because your small, weak, worthless minds can only conceive of a black and white world. You only see one side or the other. You despise America and you’ll stand beside any horrifically evil person or organization who does too. You’re sick in the head, and we look down on you
You’re obviously correct, everyone with an ounce of intelligence agrees with you. But you’re trying to make intelligent points to ignorant people. They don’t have what it takes to even take part in the conversation, but they’ve allowed themselves to believe that have permission to speak
You’re the black and white one, “North Korea bad” without any nuance or critical thought or research. You’re just projecting. I did nothing of the sort. Yes I despise the country destroying the earth. You should too. Your defense of them and inability to recognize what they’ve done to Korea is sick. Backwards morals that help kill Koreans. Shame on you
You’re young and you’ve got lots to learn. You’ve been put on your place a thousand times on this app, I’ve seen you many times. You won’t accept the reality because you refuse to accept that you could be wrong. You’re not a bad kid but you’ve got a lot of work to do. I look forward to seeing you grow
This isn’t a debate. It’s a lecture. You’re my student and I’m helping to teach you the things you don’t know. You’ll continue trying to argue, because just like orangutan, you’re a child who’s decided they’re allowed to sit at the adult table. I’ve seen many people like you grow into intelligence as they get older, and the same will happen to you. Accept it with grace
I never said people couldn’t go into North Korea. Tourism is an important part of their fragile economy and they concentrate infrastructure projects in Pyongyang to project modernity. They don’t let the tourists go to the rural places, which isn’t as glitzy. I said North Koreans generally can’t go to china or Russia freely, not that no one can ever enter North Korea.
Like you’re rejecting a black and white narrative lol. You learned the history of North Korea and decided that means they’re perfect good guys with only good intentions instead of realizing that nuance is a thing and the world rarely has actual angels and demons. Guess what! Governments of a country with a history of outside repression can still be shitty and repressive. A bad history doesn’t make them good perfect little angels.
Like my guy the man who led Zimbabwe out of white minority rule committed genocide against the Ndebele. Pol pot was fucking against US imperialism. Joseph Stalin fought with us in world war 2. You think the massacred Cambodians or the ethnically cleansed Ndebele or the Greeks dying on trains to Kazakhstan were like “but consider the imperialist pressure”
Okay???? So why are you spending an entire comment section trying to distract from them being an authoritarian government. I don’t see anyone arguing that the USA never did horrible crimes against North Korea. You’re arguing against people who aren’t here instead of addressing what people are saying here. That it’s a repressive government that mistreats its own citizenry.
You do know that governments the US talks shit about can still be bad right. You’re not like being cool and goin against the narrative 🤙 by dismissing any criticism as being nothing but propaganda. Hell, fun fact propaganda doesn’t have to be made up information in all cases. It sometimes is, but it can also be an amplification of something true for propagandistic purposes.
if it keeps the south from toppling the regime, so be it. the Korean state is necessary to protect the Korean revolution, lest it be dismantled and sold off to western companies. the DPRK is a dictatorship, no one has said otherwise, but that dictatorship exists to protect their revolution from the west, and has been largely successful in doing so
Every authoritarian government and its actions have been justified to the populace using an existential threat. They always say “this is bad but it’s worth it.” What do you think Israel uses to justify its genocide? Or pol pot? Or the Turkish genocide of Armenians? Or the repressive Eritrean government? There’s alway an internal or outside threat, real or imaginary, and these actions will result in a better outcome in the end.