Anonymous #2 5w

yes, i’d happily go back with all of the other whites. europeans are from europe after all

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Anonymous #1 5w

we can’t. the white nations are cutting down the remaining rainforests to grow cattle and coffee

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Anonymous #5 5w

Send them to Israel

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Anonymous #5 5w

they can stay. they didn’t create capitalism, imperialism, or the climate catastrophe. they’re chill imo

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Nah, we’re deporting them too. If you disagree you can leave with them.

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Anonymous #5 5w

fine. we will be executing the white supremacists then

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

and then offer those deported the right to return (they can live where the white supremacists used to live)

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Oh that’s mass genocide, you’re arguing for mass genocide. You just said “White people don’t deserve to have nations and if you disagree we will kill you” Or in other words: “Let us kill you or we’ll kill you”

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Holy based I love steaks and coffee

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Historically the biggest recorded genocides have been against white people

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Anonymous #6 5w

like?

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

You said Europe belongs to everybody, not just Whites

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Holomodor, Holocaust, Bosnian, Modern Ukrainian, Anfal, Kill the Boer

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Anonymous #6 5w

yeah, so, most of those people were not perceived as white by whites as the time. whiteness is dynamic and changes, the Irish, Italians, Ukrainians, Jewish peoples, etc. all became white by participating in systems of white supremacy and colonialism. hence why at one point they were considered nonwhite and were the victims of genocide, whereas today, you’re calling them white

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Anonymous #6 5w

but yeah, kill the boer. those are whites who deserve it

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Anonymous #5 5w

mhm

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Anonymous #5 5w

because nonwhite peoples have always lived in europe :)

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

So genocide is cool when its "deserved"?

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Anonymous #6 5w

settlers aren’t the victims of genocide, ever

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

So the black settlers that came to Rhodesia at around the same time as the white settlers couldn't have ever experienced genocide?

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Anonymous #6 5w

Black settlers in Africa ? why’re there europeans in the middle of Africa?? dutch people are from the netherlands

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

From my understanding a large amount of Rhodesia was unsettled bushland prior to its "colonization"

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Anonymous #6 5w

and please don’t talk to me about rhodesia, some white moron decided to go to a Black church in my state and massacre church goers wearing the patch of rhodesia. do you really want to defend the existence of white supremacist states while pretending to be opposed to genocide?

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Anonymous #6 5w

and Palestine was empty prior to zionist colonization, and yk what, so was the American continent prior to european ‘discovery’. i wish i could be stupid ngl

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

No it literally wasn't, Palestine was densely settled and had fucking cities prior to Israel's existence. Rhodesia had maybe a few mud huts.

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Anonymous #6 5w

yeah, zios say the same about Palestine, moron. same with the settlers here on the American continent. shut up, settler

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Rhodies had way more of a right to it than Jews ever did

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

They built the country from the ground up

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Anonymous #6 5w

they’re just as european as european Jews are. they belong in europe, not a settler colony

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Anonymous #6 5w

by exploiting African labor, sure. just like the Amerikkkans

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

I'm not saying they weren't, but going somewhere to drastically improve a country isn't exactly a bad thing

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Rhodesia wasn't race based like these other colonies either the only reason that differences even came about between the white and black settlers is SOME of the black settlers literally had never seen such a developed country and were actual hunter gatherers.

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

I thought you were an orangutan? You deserve to be deported to Guantanamo bay.

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Your logic behind which groups have a valid claim to a given piece of land always seems to bend to prevent White people from having a unique claim to any homeland on the planet

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Anonymous #5 5w

It's funny because wouldn't only describing it as settling when White people do it imply that we are somehow superior in our capability to develop a settlement?

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Anonymous #5 5w

it’s based indigeneity. settlers are not indigenous to lands where they have to displace and genocide the indigenous peoples who are living there. i hope this helps!

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Anonymous #6 5w

well no, it’s just that whites have been the dominant force behind settler colonialism for the past 5-6 centuries

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

We have largely been the only ones capable of it for that time as well

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

The term “Indigenous”, as currently defined by the UN, uses “historical marginalization” as a loophole to bend for the same reason. White people are apparently indigenous to fucking nowhere.

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Anonymous #5 5w

you’re right, because white people are not actually a homogenous group of people. they are various groups of peoples who have shed their cultural and historical identities to uphold whiteness and white supremacy in white nations and white settler colonies. white peoples are indigenous nowhere. Irish people are indigenous to Ireland, English people to England, so on and so forth

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Anonymous #5 5w

it’s not a loophole, you just lack racial and colonial consciousness. it’s simple, really

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

just study your history !!

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

So it's a form of real oppression for China to be more stringent on accepting immigrants from the US than for instance Vietnam in your mind?

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

You seem perfectly content to treat White people as a collective group whenever you want to advocate for their deportation to Europe.

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Anonymous #6 5w

what are you even on atp? what in the whataboutism

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Yes its a metaphor

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Anonymous #5 5w

yes, because whites in diaspora are a collective group. we europeans are indigenous to europe, not a continent we had to steal

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

What about when the Romans stole it from the Celts?

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Anonymous #6 5w

do either of those peoples exist today?

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Anonymous #6 5w

and ironically, the descendants of the Romans and Celts were marginalized by the whites claiming to be the heirs of Rome

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Yes the celts still exist as englishmen, irish, and germanic peoples while the romans still exist as italians

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

White is synonymous with European ancestry, as you have implied by conflating the two terms in your comment’s reference to “We Europeans” as a reiteration of the White diaspora. You have contradicted yourself, as just a moment ago you said Whites were indigenous to “nowhere” and you have now said we are indigenous to Europe.

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Anonymous #6 5w

ah, the descendants of the Celtic peoples exist, i see

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

I think you’re the one lacking racial consciousness.

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Anonymous #5 5w

white is not synonymous with European ancestry, 1) because YOU pointed out that not all europeans are white :), and 2) because Europeans at various points in time have been considered white or nonwhite. whiteness is anything but concrete. it as a social construct is as arbitrary as they come

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

again, the Irish, Italians, Slavs, Jewish peoples were all considered nonwhite, while being indigenous to Europe!!

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Nonwhites are not European, European is not synonymous with “lives in Europe,” it has a specific genetic and hereditary connotation

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

even though phenotypically, they appear white 🥱 again, whiteness is anything but consistent. if i need your land, your resources, and your labor, then you are not white

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Anonymous #5 5w

yeah, if you prescribe to racial science and eugenics maybe. most of us grew out of pseudosciences lol

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

i’m glad you and #6 are coming out as eugenicists though

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

European isn't always synonymous with White either as much as you want to make it out to be

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Anonymous #6 5w

i actually have never claimed it was, hence why i said at several points that Europeans have been considered nonwhite. again, the IRISH, ITALIANS, GREEKS, JEWISH PEOPLES, SLAVS, have all been considered nonwhite despite living in Europe and being European

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

The people who considered them nonwhite were wrong. It’s as simple as that (except for Jews, who are genetically distinct from every other European group, and also not from Europe)

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Anonymous #5 5w

white people are wrong?? shocker!!!

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

You’re just doing this

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Anonymous #5 5w

except, i’m not… whiteness arose around colonialism. it has a colonial boundary. i actually have not once engaged with history prior to european colonization in this thread. now, i could link the reconquistas, the crusades, and Roman colonization as being the origins of later European colonialism, but seeing as y’all can’t even grasp that, i think it’s best we don’t discuss earlier history

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

And now you have resorted to sarcastic quips in place of an argument

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Anonymous #5 5w

sarcastic? no i’m being serious. we’ve reached the limits of your comprehension

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

You’re claiming whiteness is an illegitimate category because it is made up of a set of subgroups.

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

You’re not arguing with 17th century Anglo Saxons who thought the Irish were inferior, you’re arguing with 21st Century Whites.

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Anonymous #5 5w

lol i’m arguing with people who do not understand their own history. that was my mistake, you’re right

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Whats your bench 1rm

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Besides, you’re inconsistently applying the term “White” to groups from which you seek to revoke nationhood.

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Anonymous #5 5w

i’m sorry, but how does the dissolution of settler colonies deprive europeans of their nations in europe. explain that

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

‘you’re revoking nationhood from whites’ sort of like how white peoples have long ignored the nationhood of the nations which their colonies oppress ?

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Do you think black people have any legitimate land claim in America or do you think they should all go back to Africa?

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Anonymous #6 5w

Black people have developed pan-Africanism as a means to resolve occupying a land which they are not indigenous to. meanwhile europeans continue to try and justify their existence on lands they have no connection to

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

You have made the argument that global non Europeans have a claim to Europe, which by definition prevents Europeans from having a unique claim to their home continent.

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Anonymous #6 5w

ever heard of Marcus Garvey and Back to Africa ?

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

and mind you, the African question in the Americas is completely different from the white question. our ancestors stole them from their continent to force them to work on a stolen continent. study YOUR history

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

So it’s a revenge strategy, then?

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

You didn't answer my question. If Europeans have no legitimate claim to the land, the same would hold true for anyone that they brought along with them (namely also the Irish here but for the point of argument let's say just African Americans)

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

So should we deport black people to Africa while we deport white people to Europe? Or is that too evil because their ancestors experienced slavery?

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Anonymous #6 5w

do y’all only engage with strawmen? because Pan-Africanism is a voluntary movement. besides the US is currently deporting nonwhites, of which i’m certain y’all support

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Anonymous #5 5w

no. it’s self-preservation because the white led world order is death marching the entire planet towards global conflict and extinction. contain the whites to their own continent and let the rest of the world be

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

I've been to Europe to connect with my roots but I can't afford a gun license there so I can't feasibly move there yet

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Anonymous #6 5w

then why’re you arguing?

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

I think that white europeans in the US have a legitimate claim to the land, all we've discussed here is how throughout history land is stolen.

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

Lmaooo you fr want to ethnically cleanse the entire earth from Whites aside from Europe?

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Anonymous #5 5w

if that’s what you think. apparently you can’t read though

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

I'm still waiting to hear whether or not you would forcibly deport black people to Africa alongside white people to Europe and what your bench press 1 rep max is just fyi.

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Anonymous #6 5w

no, hence why i pointed out that Africans have already begun developing a framework to resolve their captivity by europeans in a land that europeans stole. again, they did so voluntarily. and are you really that insecure in your masculinity? i couldn’t care less what you can allegedly bench. you probably abuse people ngl

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

“Contain the Whites to their own continent” what continent would that be?

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

just from what i’ve gathered from our conversation here, you bringing up Rhodesia and defending other settler colonies. toxic masculinity and white supremacy go hand in hand under fascism. i wouldn’t expect you to understand though

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Anonymous _orangutan 5w

"Toxic masculinity" people like you should be put in camps

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Anonymous #6 5w

That’s far more merciful than the fate that this person wishes on us.

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Anonymous #6 5w

Meanwhile, out of the other side of their mouths, people like this person spew lies like “we just wanna give you free healthcare bro” and wonder why we don’t believe them.

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Anonymous #5 5w

whites want to be victims so bad

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