Anonymous OP 3w

this has been discussed in some posts before: while the movement for Palestinian emancipation is not rooted in antisemitism, and is a critique of the colonial actions of Zionism, there are a plethora of people who attempt to hijack the movement for their own ideological gains; an example being Christian nationalists and neonazis (think the nick Fuentes type) people like that do not care about the Palestinian people, but already have a preexisting prejudice against Jewish people as a whole, so

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Anonymous #2 3w

this definitely makes a lot of sense and I can definitely see that. That’s honestly really unfortunate because it’s destroys the meaning and power behind the movement for palestine people. Free palestine but free them from their government as well

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Anonymous #2 3w

they try to undermine the important effort to advocate for the end of a genocide by attempting to redirect blame onto the entire Jewish population, which is entirely not the case. Zionism does not equate Judaism, its essentially the same as Christian nationalists and how their beliefs are not representative of all Christians as a whole (as an example) It is a very important discussion to be had, especially in order to weed out those malicious individuals attempting to co-opt the movement

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Anonymous #2 3w

with their incessant antisemitism and prejudice. people like that are commonly the ones talking about a “holy war”/“spiritual war” it’s all dogwhistles :/

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Anonymous #2 3w

Nick fuentes has repeatedly stated that his heart bleeds for the people in Palestine? He gets more emotional over it than basically anything else in the past

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Anonymous OP 3w

well yeah, no one is claiming that the current Palestinian government is a proper one, but imo it’s important to recognize that it’s also a result of the conditions forced upon the country. historically speaking, it’s quite common for organizations classified as terrorists to rise up in the face of unfettered oppression. It does not justify the commonality of a “means to an end”, but ultimately the majority of the blame lies with the nation colonizing them

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Anonymous #3 3w

he’s a neonazi who thinks the holocaust was either fake, or cool, what the fuck? if he could achieve his goals of oppressing the entire Jewish population without co-opting Palestinian emancipation, I promise he would be advocating for their death as well. you’re talking about an antisemitic, holocaust-denying, misogynistic scumbag, and you want me to believe his performative tears indicate that he’s somehow turned a stone?

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Anonymous #3 3w

I’ll give this to him though, he knows how to manipulate his viewers for damn sure.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I completely understand their frustration and them being oppressed especially for so long. I just think that if you know if do not have that many resources or a dominant military to protect yourself then i don’t agree with them constantly sending rocket fires to them. That’s where their government loses me. I definitely would love to see them get that freedom they deserve

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Anonymous #2 3w

let’s also not forget his trend towards white supremacy, but I digress.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I totally agree on that, i not sure im buying hi whole done with the trump administration and him off the maga agenda

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Anonymous OP 3w

see how you’re still placing the majority of the blame upon the Palestinian government, which if we’re being completely honest, is technically acting out of self-defense despite being a bit radicalized (rightfully so, given the context) I think it’s much easier to blame the victim than to reflect on the overwhelming propaganda we’re inundated with, for the goal of supporting our “allies”. remember, if they weren’t undergoing active colonization, there would be no retaliatory missiles

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Anonymous OP 3w

It isn’t about supporting the Palestinian government, that’s the important thing here, as the Palestinian people have also been oppressed by them via vote suppression; however this issue entirely resolves itself if there was no colonization (or ethnic cleansing) going on. these are symptoms of a larger problem rooted in colonization and genocide, funded by major nations.

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Anonymous OP 3w

oh I agree, i bet he’ll go right back to licking trump’s boot the second it becomes more beneficial for him. those type of people are all about spreading their ideology to others, by any means.

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Anonymous #2 3w

1. doesn’t matter because it has been used as a way for Jews to absolve themselves from responsibility of their crimes for 80 years 2. we literally have jewish america firsters we have denounced genuine racial hatred/eugenics as mental illness for months now 3. we have more in common with the Palestinians ideologically, as we believe people of all races should be able to determine the fate of their homeland without internationalist corruption.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I’ve worked for him as an intern, he’s entirely earnest and a nice guy to interact with. I’m literally multiple “protected groups” at once and he didn’t care at all outside of being a comedian in the discord. This is why we’ve been able to convert so many left wingers over to our side, it’s because we’re the only inclusive political group on the internet.

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Anonymous #3 3w

you’re a fucking scumbag, I hope you know that. you’re not “inclusive”, you’re predatory and malicious. I don’t give a fuck whether you tokenize yourself or not, you’re the one who chose to become a neonazi for whatever fucking reason. Remember that this is what you chose to side with when the people rise up and remind you of exactly what your violent ideology is worth.

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Anonymous #2 3w

and it doesn’t matter? seriously? makes sense you’d believe that as you adopted a similar ideology to what caused it in the first place. have to downplay its severity before you repeat the event, right? go back to licking the boot of your nazi boss, and fuck off otherwise.

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Anonymous #2 3w

(see what I mean OP?)

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Anonymous #2 3w

we are much more inclusive than you since we actually allow some degree of ideological deviation 😭 if you disagree with one thing on the progressive shitlist, then you’re kicked out of the club and literally hitler the only people rising up are patriots bro, progressives don’t have any unified platform or singular purpose to unify under. Ideology over victory mentality. Israel has made any sort of left wing revolution impossible as your proletariat are easily swayed cattle.

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Anonymous #2 3w

no i def understand you and where your coming from. I understand why they want to fight back and I’m not trying to come across as fully blaming them. I just feel for the palestine people and it sucks constantly seeing them in war and im doing my research and i seen it’s because of them doing rocket fires and ik that they are oppressed and just want to be free but i wish they were more thoughtful considering how much their citizens are going through

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Anonymous #2 3w

I genuinely don’t get this idea where left wingers would ever win a political confrontation if it came to blows. Like, the right wingers hold a vast majority of the guns and body positions in the military, as well as most agricultural jobs. The economy comes to a screeching halt when the food supply is cut off, and the easily swayed, weak population of the left will immediately sue for peace upon any sort of food shortage.

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Anonymous #3 3w

your clearly delusional

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Anonymous OP 3w

you’re

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Anonymous OP 3w

you’re*

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Anonymous #3 3w

You aren’t a “patriot”, you’re a traitor lmao. you can call yourself whatever you want, but you’re the one who chose to adopt neo-Naziism. I don’t give a fuck about your attempts to propagandize in defense of yourself. Always remember the type of scumbag you are, and it’s the kind who willingly joins the ranks of neonazis and other fascists. you are the enemy, even more so than any non-domestic threat. “a house divided against itself cannot stand”, and your fundamental beliefs rely on division

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Anonymous #3 3w

you will be held accountable in the future, and I hope you remember that. you better hope that accountability doesn’t manifest in the form of what you advocate for others.

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Anonymous OP 3w

at the end of the day, Israel still holds a large portion of the accountability for the scenario currently unfolding, especially as it expands it aggression towards Palestinians; but ultimately I agree regarding the hope for emancipation for the Palestinian population (and, in all honesty, the non-Zionist population living in Israel) I hope that we’re lucky enough to see a “one-state solution” in our lifetimes in which everyone cohabitates and develops the country together, rather than

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Anonymous #2 3w

two countries divided by immutable traits

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Anonymous #2 3w

i def agree israel takes hold of the larger accountability but thank you for sharing your opinion

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