Anonymous landtrust 5d

Because it gives them purpose to “fight back”

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Anonymous landtrust 5d

Like every year around this time they get so angry about what, ppl who don’t participate? I mean damn man

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Anonymous OP 5d

The Christians I know get a lot happier this time of year

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Anonymous #3 5d

-mainstream media

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Anonymous #3 5d

Is this a bit

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Anonymous #3 5d

i mean jesus was 100% a brown man, but that's a fact not some woke thing lmao you sound crazy

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Anonymous #5 5d

The endless debates about his ethnicity are rly something. Ppl actually seem to think he was white, and not that this image was adopted for cultural purposes

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Anonymous #3 5d

If you consider black Santa and DEI to be persecution against Christianity then I’m sorry for whatever denomination you are

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Anonymous #6 5d

I didn’t know anything. I was a young kid. All I knew was there were rainbow flags and open support for some kids, and yet when I would voice something religiously based I was told I was anti-science, and ridiculed by my peers. My teachers never did anything to help. I’m not saying I’m indicative of a larger trend, I’m just one example, but being discriminated against because of your religion is still common.

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Anonymous #3 5d

Even if it’s DEI of non-Christian religions, where in the Bible does it say to be a petty bitch when you don’t get what you want? What part of the Bible includes your entitlement to a system of benefit? Or does it preach lifting others up and helping the less fortunate? Also-What part of the Bible says coloring a fictionalized religious figure incorrectly is persecution? Ain’t yall been doing that to Jesus for 2000-some years?

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Anonymous #6 5d

I’m not disagreeing that some academics are atheist pricks, but did you grow up like inner city or in a non-white community? Cause the overwhelming majority of America is still Christian(or Christian leaning/non practicing). I’m an atheist from cali and people don’t bring up atheism/religion normally, if at all.

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Anonymous #6 5d

I’m on your side, only if the “religiously based” facts you proposed don’t directly contradict the very science that you survive on. Most Political orientated Christians I see propose beliefs that are physically or utterly contradictory to the world in front of them. Some talk about biology and philosophy if they’re the same thing, especially concerning gender/attraction. They wanna draw definite claims as if humans even understand our brains fine anatomy. Or with evolution, where we’ve seen it

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Anonymous #7 5d

Occur in nature and know it’s not theoretical. If you wanna disagree that humans evolved from a shared ape ancestor, okay! That is understandable to an extent. But the principles of evolution are proven and known

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Anonymous #7 5d

I grew up in the LA suburbs, but yeah while most of the nation is “Christian” I feel like a lot of it is performative and they don’t actually follow Christ they just go through the motions of it, or say they’re Christian but only go to church for easter. Most of the churches I’ve been to around here though have seen declining membership over the decades

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Anonymous #7 5d

For me personally, I don’t really see how believing in evolution or how you think the world was created is relevant in daily life. For most Americans outside of a few hard science fields it doesn’t matter what theory you subscribe too. I personally have no issue with evolutionary theory but I’ve always found it a silly thing to fight over.

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Anonymous #6 5d

Because the medications you take and scientific advances we make are based on evolution principles. I world in an immuno lab and evolutionary principles are being used to develop potential life saving alterations. Would you accept or deny that care as it contradicts your beliefs?

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Anonymous #7 5d

I work^

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Anonymous #7 5d

The main things I’ve taken issue with though are in my history classes. I had a class once where they repeatedly listed Christian atrocities like the Crusades or the Inquisition for example. But when it came to Islam we only mentioned the golden age of Islam, where we credited them for significant scientific advancements. I am not seeking to erase history but at least be fair. Islamic states also saw massive amounts of slavery, while Christian states were not defined only by the crusades

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Anonymous #6 5d

Same with the earth being flat, do you avoid air planes as they function on spherical earth principles and violate the Bible?

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Anonymous #7 5d

History I empathize with you on a bit more. It’s very easy to manipulate history and I’m nowhere near involved in that field to talk about it. Bias teachers can also manipulate history class the easiest. But the scientific principles you disagree on, functionally invalidate most of what you use in day to day life. If you ACTUALLY believed and lived your life with only the science and beliefs of the Bible you’d be functionally amish

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Anonymous #7 5d

I have no idea where in the Bible it says the earth is flat. But let’s be serious here I mean are most Americans really denying care because of evolutionary beliefs? It’s really not that significant, and for the ones who do it is their religious prerogative to do so. The Supreme Court has affirmed that several times. I know like some people take it further and they’ll refuse things like blood but that really isn’t a lot of people.

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Anonymous #7 5d

More people are probably persuaded by whatever RFK says veiled in whatever “science” he cites than religious texts. Those people probably tend to be more religious but there is an attempt to use “science” as a reasoning tool

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Anonymous #7 5d

I’ll be so fr what you said about performative Christian’s is kinda how I feel of anti-science Christian’s. Both close their eyes to Texts and the world in front of them in favor of their own personal beliefs. Seeing is believing, and closing your eyes going “nanananan that’s not really how it works” i see as ignorance to god and science. If you really want to appreciate the world I think people would want to learn about it and explore its wonders rather than never seeing and believing.

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Anonymous #6 5d

Yea but like you said, if you don’t actually care about following the beliefs. Isn’t it all one big performative scam

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Anonymous #7 5d

That said, I personally don’t really have major disagreements with science though. There’s no reason why an all-powerful God couldn’t have made the earth through phenomenon we observe in Space, or that humanity couldn’t have been shaped through evolutionary processes we see here

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Anonymous #6 5d

Are most Americans denying care based on their religious beliefs? No. Because American Christian’s are performative in belief.

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Anonymous #6 5d

It’s absolutely true god could still have a heavy hand in the world and evolution, but why not have the strength and courage to seek out that knowledge and wisdom rather than play coy?

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My background is political science and it’s amazing generally speaking how performative many Americans are with everything. My favorite example is all those people with “we the people” merch. I doubt most of them have read the Constitution. Unfortunately that trend is in the Church too. I know many who claim to be Christian but refuse to act Christlike.

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Anonymous #6 5d

I think we agree on a lot fundamentally. I still lean Christian morally but would never claim it for exactly why you said—I don’t follow/agree with the church on everything and it would be insincere to do so. But the teachings are still absolutely useful and worth a lot. Seeing the church get wrapped up in politics has been scary af to see

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Anonymous #7 5d

I belong to the more traditional conservative wing of my party and one of the standard bearers of that movement, Barry Goldwater said, among other things in the matter, “Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise.” I think the political world of today has shown that to be a prudent statement.

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Anonymous #6 5d

I fuck with whatever brainwaves you got going on. 2025 conservatism is very very different than it was even a few years ago. I agree with you that academic atheists can be all or nothing pricks who refuse to compromise, and it seems you also kinda agree some Christian’s take that all or nothing approach as well. I wish people would just accept that shits complicated and there’s very few “absolute facts” in this world. Then maybe they’d realize compromise is required

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Anonymous #7 5d

Unfortunately my wing of the party is rapidly deteriorating. I’ve been cancelled by my county party for not being “ideologically pure”… it was my understanding that cancel culture was something we were against as a party but I guess not. I was at TPUSAs AMFEST and I was troubled by what I saw there. We are quickly becoming populist, abandoning actual conservative foundations. I doubt anyone in there read Burke for example.

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Anonymous #7 5d

I fear we are rapidly eroding the constitution in this age of populist dogma. It seeks an easy outlook on the world rather than a principled policy approach. I mean Heritage Foundation, which was supposed to be a conservative bulwark, has called for the expansion of the Executive branch and weakening legislative primacy. There is nothing conservative in my view about eroding constitutional norms and the seperation of powers

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Anonymous #6 5d

I was raised conservative and swapped independent. If everyone around me was a conservative who actually had the moral convictions you talk about, I’d still be red. Everything you said is spot on of modern conservatives and it’s sad/scary to see

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Anonymous #4 5d

lol he was white

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Anonymous #3 5d

when did straight up denying facts become a thing

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Anonymous #7 5d

It sucks because it almost feels like watching Rome burn. I mean I’m only 19 and there’s a sort of desperation among the other interns and staffers in my wing. We have little institutional power and in almost every realm actual conservative leadership has been snubbed by the populist right. At the same time I do feel the nation is in deep crisis. I do feel a return to Constitutional norms and prudent economic policy could fix many issues we see today, but there is little political will to do so

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