Anonymous #3 30w

Warmongering, job losing, economy killing loser. I will be happy when he’s gone

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Anonymous #3 30w

really responded to yourself

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Anonymous #1 30w

To add on to what I was thinking yea

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Anonymous #1 29w

Bro has never heard of elaborating

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Anonymous #5 29w

They’re on crack bro

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Anonymous #6 29w

source: source

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Anonymous #1 29w

The yearly presidential ranking done by historians. https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th

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Anonymous #1 29w

Here’s a newer one. https://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2026/02/npis-founder-ranks-the-presidents-2026-edition.html

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Anonymous #6 29w

The second one is a terrible ranking, and to try to play both of those off as unbiased is disingenuous

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Anonymous #2 29w

They are unbiased. Trump has not moved from the bottom of any ranking in years.

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Anonymous #6 29w

I'm not talking about Trump being at the bottom, I'm talking about how the ranking is done by the founder of the "Northwest Progressive institute", a left wing think tank org. Also FDR above JFK is ridiculous, when did JFK put Japanese Americans in internment camps?

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Anonymous #6 29w

They are clearly biased towards FDR because the New Deal was aligned with their socialist ideology

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Anonymous #2 29w

He got us out of the worst economic disaster in US history, helped end the worst war in history, created millions of jobs, created tons of social programs and safety nets, beautified America by building tons of national parks and public infrastructure, established social security, etc. Not to mention he’s literally the longest serving president in US history. JFK certainly has a presidential legacy as well, but he doesn’t hold a candle to FDR.

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Anonymous #2 29w

FDR in top 3 is not a controversial ranking at all

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Anonymous #2 29w

C-Span has the same list. https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall

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Anonymous #7 29w

The New Deal didn't do shit to get us out of our economic issues, changing from our isolationist approach to the war was what did

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Bet you're the same type of person to complain about the effects of monoculture crop industry in the US

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Nope, who do you think started that system?

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My point isn't that FDR is imperfect, its that leading the country in WW2 and experiencing economic growth because of it pales in comparison to not unjustly imprisoning entire minority groups on a moral scale. Even further than that, we can attribute his "better" policy decisions to systemic issues in the nation today.

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Anonymous #2 29w

So no, I don't trust the guy at this left wing think tank to make unbiased decisions about the best presidents are, his ideas about who that'd be already directly conflict with mine within the first 5 presidents listed.

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Anonymous #2 29w

And I'm not saying that because of my own biases (although I hate FDR and will admit they are present), I am saying this because I cannot morally and truthfully say otherwise

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I'm not saying it didn't provide a temporary boost, I'm saying it did nothing to get us out of the Great Depression.

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Well if you're not implying that he's a good person, the implication is still that the other 48 are worse than him. I can't point to anything JFK has done that compares to FDR's misdeeds, can you?

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Yeah I agree there, although maybe by a different name than the capitalist hegemony. He challenged a lot of powerful people and ideologies in our society, and a lot of people (myself included) would argue that it led to his death.

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Anonymous #2 29w

Imo, that alone is a greater moral good for this country than anything throughout FDR's terms. I'd feel safe saying about a lot of presidents that they'd go to war against the Nazis if the Nazis threatened America with war. I don't think I could say for many others, if any, besides JFK that they actually challenged the American political system on behalf of their constituents.

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