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The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
306 upvotes, 36 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in US Politics. "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears."
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Anonymous 5w

oh dementia donny how I hate you

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Anonymous 5w

Is bro seeing things there is no body in the road

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Anonymous 5w

"hard to believe he is alive" fuck me how is that hard to believe? for anyone? anyone on this planet?

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Anonymous 5w

this is scary. how can anybody read these words coming out of a grown man’s mouth and still believe he should be allowed to run our entire country

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Anonymous 5w

MF is just making shit up. Nothing new, I know, but still.

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Anonymous 5w

This is propaganda. Clear as day.

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Anonymous 5w

Tf he literally puts his gun away and walks around, car never touched him

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Anonymous 5w

“Who seems to have” ok so we’re just assuming now.

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Anonymous 5w

Pants on fire

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Anonymous 5w

I hate the guy but he is objectively correct, apart from the blatant propaganda. It was self defense. TN v Garder (1985) and Graham v Connor (1989) unfortunately set that precedent.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

She was turning her fucking car around and complying with orders. It wasn’t self defense at all

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 5w

no she wasn’t. Orders were to get out of the car. She drove instead. that’s just a lie

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

If she truly was in the wrong how come the agent fled the scene afterwards?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

You’re quoting cases that support that this is not self defense💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w
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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

#5 im very confused by your comment 😂 it literally says the use of deadly force to prevent an escape is wrong

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Also take a look at DHS policy

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w
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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Yes. But the initial shots were bc she was driving with agents swarming her car. “…OR OTHERS” he had reasonable suspicion to believe that she was going to drive into them or others

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Can you read the policy ?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

TN v Garder

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

I posted TN v Garder which explicitly says “ the use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the 4A”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Keep reading. Read the part in quotes in your ss

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Significant threat of DEATH or SERIOUS PHYSICAL INJURY. Which were not present

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Yes. Driving a vehicle with people around is an example of suspect posing a threat of serious physical injury to the officer OR OTHERS.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w
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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

He was the only one in front of the vehicle ( more towards the left front bumper ) the car has hard turned right. He could reasonably move out of the way ( which he did and continued shooting ) and no one else was in danger

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

he even made the second shot WHILE moving out of the way

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

why even shoot??? Why wasn’t shooting her tires their initial reaction

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

Yes exactly. The second and third shot he made were when he was completely out of the way and no one was in any danger. So he was perfectly able to move out of the way of the vehicle without getting any injury.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

#5 just an FYI though ICE is not the police

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

So by your logic we shouldn’t drive cars through college campuses since there are people around Or after concerts Or at amusement parks Or anywhere with a crosswalk Or anywhere with any form of a parking lot Genuinely how does your comment make ANY sense at all..

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Even if I was to humor your dumb ideology, how do you explain them refusing to allow her medical attention afterwards? A physician was on site and begged them to let them attempt life saving care and they refused to let the physician help

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Have you seen the video?

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5w

genuinely and that’s so inconsiderate to the woman who DID NOT make it

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 5w

They have to be brainwashed because there’s no way

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