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It’s un-American to not support your president. You don’t have to support what he does. You don’t have to approve of his job performance. But you should support the president since we voted for him!
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Anonymous 3w

are you a monarchist or some shit? there’s freedom of speech and expression for a reason, and the entire reason we do not have royalty in this nation is because you’re fundamentally wrong. it’s inherently American to vocally oppose the actions of your government when you disagree with them, and even more so to advocate and take action to improve your government.

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Anonymous 3w

It’s un American only if being “pro american” means putting other countries before America

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Anonymous 3w

As bad of times Biden had, this reasoning did not fly with him in office lol, Republican Party and outliers pissed their pants over him being in charge, it’s the big 2020’s my boy your gonna have protractors and that’s just life even if you do strongly think we should all bend the knee, but does it mean we’re Un-American, he’ll absolutely no. Name one time every American just sat and took orders mindlessly, being an American is being free mind and thought

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Anonymous 3w

who’s we

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Anonymous 3w

well shit y'all better call the House Un-American Activities committee on me and half this board 😭

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Anonymous 2w

ugly

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

you truly are just an “America first” nationalist, aren’t you lmfao

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

The American populous.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Not in the way you think

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

I think we should focus on our own country. But I’m not “America first” as in far right

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Anonymous replying to -> full.metal.everything. 3w

because it's been FDT

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

In all fairness, I think that’s what this country has always done. would you mind if I asked for an example of how we don’t? Even shit like usaid and financial investments in “developing countries” are long-ran schemes to establish financial leverage over countries for further exploitation, or to gain control and access to their natural resources, etc etc

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

We don’t benefit from giving stuff away to other countries. The financial institutions win, but that isn’t us

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

so we’re just gonna ignore everything I said huh? you’re misrepresenting what we do, we never give anything away. We *always* loan things under conditions, be it repayment, resource exchanges, us offering to develop specific infrastructure in exchange for our companies offshoring production, etc etc etc. we do not, and have not, given things away for absolutely nothing, except on a very rare occasion.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Israel has given us NOTHING

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

wait are you one of those groyper fucks? no shit, they’re our proxy state for genocide, but you’re *still* avoiding the point of my messages, being that you’re either misunderstanding or intentionally misrepresenting the state of “US aid” and ally ships Why do you think we have a military base in nearly every country in the world? coercion.

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

Also, excuse me if I doubt that your advocacy against Israel comes from a place of advocating for Palestinian emancipation, and rather more likely a place of antisemitic Christian nationalism.

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

oh my god you are, aren’t you?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

You already asked if I was America first aka groyper and I said no I’m not.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

You said we don’t give handouts but in the case of Israel we do

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

America first and groypers themselves are technically two distinct groups while having significant overlap. America first are predominately white supremacists, while groypers are predominantly holocaust-denying (or supporting) antisemites. there’s a trend of Christian nationalism amongst them both, but I apologize for the assumption if you’re not affiliated with any of the above. You can see why I assumed as much though, right?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

I get your perspective but I don’t see how it’s different from a Zionist accusing a pro Palestinian of being a Nazi

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

I’m not a white supremacist or a Holocaust denier so there you go

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

Ahhh see as much as I despise our relationship w Israel, you’re wrong. Israel is our proxy state. They’re doing what our military industrial complex and government wants, hence why we continually support and fund them despite being internationally recognized as committing genocide.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

do not be mistaken my friend, WE are directly responsible for this genocide, and it’s not going to end at Palestine. The US hopes to use Israel as, essentially, a weapon to ethnically cleanse the entirely of the “Middle East” it’s why the issue is so complex here, because our government is actively running propo in favor of the genocide, on both sides of the aisle.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

I used to think it was America controlling Israel but there’s no pro America advocacy groups in Israel. But there are pro Israeli advocacy groups in America

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

well, I mean, for starters I’m vehemently against the genocide and our various forms of oppression here, so that should mean something lmao Zionists refuse to even acknowledge the existence of the genocide :(

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Are you a socialist?

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

do we have “pro America” advocacy groups in South Korea? (Another proxy state for the US)

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Idk but they don’t nearly have the level of influence that Zionists do in our government

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

communist, imo “socialist” is used way too broadly nowadays and many social democrats describe themselves as socialist, so I just use communist for clarity The main point I’m trying to make is that we primarily do focus on ourselves as a country, we are the head of the imperial empire to that point yk?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

I don’t think our government does things to benefit the American people. Their loyalty isn’t to our nation. This is what Lenin describes in imperialism the highest stage

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Are you a communist as in a libertarian communist or a Leninist

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

i think that’s less about Zionism, and more about capital tbh (citizens united :/), but I see what you mean the thing is I just don’t agree when you say “we don’t get anything out of the relationship”(paraphrasing) like don’t get me wrong, we the workers don’t get jack shit, and get fucked over, but our government does not represent us.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

It reminds me of the saying “the system isn’t broken, it’s working exactly as intended”

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Yeah the government wins but the government doesn’t serve us

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

I’d say more libertarian communist I guess? I just want to see a world where we don’t have these stupid ass borders and currencies dictating the worth and value of peoples lives, and that everyone regardless of background is capable of living respectable and fulfilling lives exploring their dreams yk? a world where making a profit isn’t the bare requirement for damn near everything, and one where hate doesn’t overpower others

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

especially one where we actually care about the lives of others, including other species aside from ourselves, and actively strive to protect and nurture the planet we live on for our and future generations to come

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

(Ik it’s a mouthful lmao, it’s the best way I know how to describe it)

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

I agree! The government serves capital, and capital is invested in genocide and ethnic cleansing, especially if it means conserving capitalism.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

out of curiousity what are your views on labor

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

I agree we need to care about other lives and other species/nature

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Anonymous replying to -> full.metal.everything. 3w

in what way? I think labor is the backbone of the world tbh, and there is no company nor nation, etc, that can operate without it; but at the same time it’s exploited by those who wish to gain on the hard work of others.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

I’d hope to see a global organization of the working class in our lifetime in all honesty, especially given the attempts of these new technofascists to entirely rid their inherent reliance on us workers (via creating, what I personally see as, potentially an entire species of digital slaves created solely to be exploited by humans :/)

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

(I should clarify: I don’t necessarily think that the average artificial intelligence architecture is sentient, but I do think we’re arrogantly treading dangerous ground without wanting to take time to consider what the true depth and capabilities are of what we’re creating)

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

i see why you call yourself a libertarian leftist, your views seem to be a synthesis of syndicalist and communist/socialist ideas. i like your thinking.

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Anonymous replying to -> full.metal.everything. 3w

ahhh thank you!!🫶 I never heard of syndicalism before but upon reading a little about it, I do relate with it lol, I’m going to look more into it!! naturally the communist/socialist ideas you already know :)) I appreciate you!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

We gotta save the planet

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

we really do😪 it’s not looking too good for the next few decades if we continue on this route :( but I like to believe there’s still a chance as long as we have hope (and more but yk lol)

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

As a republican and someone who voted for Trump, I agree with you that republicans treated Biden pretty poorly. I always believed Biden was a good man with good intentions but was not cut out for the job.

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